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Today's unnecessarily snotty retro musing/riddle

Today's unnecessarily snotty retro musing/riddle
September 03, 2021 10:34PM
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/06/2021 11:26PM by That One Guy.
Re: Today's unnecessarily snotty retro musing/riddle
September 04, 2021 09:14AM
I thought expertise was down to the 1000 hour paradigm. They barely got close enough to striking distance of "Quiet Life" to almost qualify as a parody. "Polaroids?" Never in a million years!

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Re: Today's unnecessarily snotty retro musing/riddle
September 04, 2021 12:17PM
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/06/2021 11:26PM by That One Guy.
Bip
Re: Today's unnecessarily snotty retro musing/riddle
September 05, 2021 07:32PM
I won’t argue the similarity you hear… although I never really connected the two. Sure I now hear the elements in the guitar, but the Japan track is much more slinky while Duran is in your face.

We can’t slag off Duran and bemoan Japan wallowing in relative obscurity. The Rio era was undeniable. It was a confluence of terrific looks and clothes, incredibly catchy songs, fantastic video images and willingness to appeal to teenage girls. How could they have known they’d be SO big?

John Taylor could’ve played a much more simplistic bass line in ‘Rio’. Nick Rhodes could’ve phoned in the keyboards in ‘save a prayer’. But they didn’t….

Both are probably robbing Roxy more than a little….?
Bip
Re: Today's unnecessarily snotty retro musing/riddle
September 06, 2021 06:55AM
I can’t make this up….

Last night I’m washing dishes, probably an hour after I posted. I decide to listen to an episode of the Gary Kemp/Guy Pratt podcast ‘Rockontours’ on a whim. I decide to listen to their Joe Elliot interview on a whim.

Joe brings up how Duran was influenced by Japan!

(Joe is truly a fan of Brit glam and it’s fun to hear his history… other tidbits: def Lep once opened for human league!).



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/06/2021 07:39PM by Bip.
Re: Today's unnecessarily snotty retro musing/riddle
September 06, 2021 11:54AM
I heartily agree with Bip. One can criticize Duran Duran as a derivative band, but every artist "derives" from someone else, whether they admit it or not. No one creates in a vacuum.

Give Duran credit for beating the sophomore slump. Their first album had a few good songs, but at most, it felt like just that -- a collection of songs. Still, a good debut album. Rio, on the other hand, is nothing short of a classic. Great production, improved playing, and a superb collection of songs from start to finish. When I play Rio, I never even consider skipping a track. The album flows beautifully, start to finish. Some say that the group hit it big more on their looks, fashion sense and videos than their music, but IMO, those people are quite mistaken. Rio is one of my favorite albums from that era, and it has stood the test of time. (I guess one could say, though, that Duran experienced the "junior slump" with Seven and the Ragged Tiger.)

As for Japan, yeah, they started out deriving from the Dolls, and then shifted the focus of their derivation to Roxy. (I've lost count of how many people I've played Japan for, who commented in one way or another to David Sylvian's resemblance to Bryan Ferry.) But hey, who cares what sources an artist "derives" from, as long as they deliver the goods.
Re: Today's unnecessarily snotty retro musing/riddle
September 06, 2021 01:04PM
Rio is definitely Duran Duran's finest achievement. "The Chauffeur" still takes my breath away.

I agree that no one creates in a vacuum. I'm reminded of Wilde's observation in one of his short stories that "Influence is simply transference of personality," and that "Every disciple takes away something from his master."

Japan's Steve Jansen, incidentally, has acknowledged that Roxy's "Manifesto was something of a musical backdrop throughout the writing/recording of Quiet Life."
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Re: Today's unnecessarily snotty retro musing/riddle
September 06, 2021 06:53PM
I haven't listened to Duran Duran since I was a teen in the '80s. But I just listened to "The Chauffeur," and that was a really good piece of stripped-down pop a la Japan's "Ghosts."
Re: Today's unnecessarily snotty retro musing/riddle
September 06, 2021 09:59PM
I've made a bunch a instrumental playlists for WFH purposes. The most recent one has Tel Aviv on it. It's a good tune. I can imagine it being sampled.
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Re: Today's unnecessarily snotty retro musing/riddle
September 07, 2021 12:56PM
Is it a glitch, or has That One Guy deleted all the posts he ever made on this site?

If he did, I wonder why? I don't think he ever even got his ears pinned back by STEVE*, a rite of passage which led more than a few people to avail themselves of the ejector seat from this board back in the day, before he mellowed with time.

(*Not stevee, in case the distinction needs making. I don't think stevee would ever rain hellfire on some poor sap for being a fan of latter-day Billy Idol, for instance.)



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/07/2021 01:07PM by breno.
Re: Today's unnecessarily snotty retro musing/riddle
September 07, 2021 05:56PM
Huh. Well, Nephew Ned did that, and he returned. You can leave One Guy but our irresistible charms will lure you back!
Re: Today's unnecessarily snotty retro musing/riddle
September 08, 2021 02:01AM
I don't think Ned ever attempted to delete his entire interaction with this site, though, as That Guy seems to have done (unless, as I said before, some sort of weird glitch caused every post he ever made to be deleted a couple days ago.)

People have left in a huff before and called everyone here a bunch of jerks on their way out the door, or have announced their departure due to fatigue with the entire business of being an obsessive music nerd (Nosepail springs to mind.) More often than not, they just disappear and leave it up to everyone else to eventually notice they've gone (good old' Erik, and the aforementioned Ned.)

But this is the first time that I know of where someone has apparently attempted to scrub their entire history from this site, which I find curious, as I don't recall them ever posting anything that would need erasing. Heck, not even the person who argued in favor of incest re: John & MacKenzie Phillips went to that extreme. They just kind of quietly went away shortly after that exchange, somewhat understandably.
Re: Today's unnecessarily snotty retro musing/riddle
September 08, 2021 08:06PM
Was That One Guy ever really here?

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