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Act 2
February 25, 2006 03:17PM
The discussion of Sugar in another thread made me wonder about this - is there anyone who rose to prominence in one well-respected band, it broke up, then they formed a second band that was better than the first? Sugar were a great band, but I don't know of anyone who thinks they were better than Husker Du.

Personally, I've always liked Luna better than Galaxie 500. But off the top of my head I can't think of anyone else.

PiL and Big Audio Dynamite were both well-regarded, but does anyone think they were better than the Pistols or the Clash? Son Volt and Wilco than Uncle Tupelo?

I guess on any given day I might prefer the Waco Brothers to the Mekons. So that might be another one. Except the Mekons have never actually broken up.

And no, the Beatles vs. the Quarry Men doesn't count. The first band has to have been prominent enough to have more than a local fan base or something. And while the Eurythmics were infinitely better than the Tourists, I don't know that anyone ever gave enough of a damn about the Tourists to really care. But maybe that could count, I guess.



Post Edited (02-25-06 11:20)
Re: Act 2
February 25, 2006 03:54PM
Alex Chilton - Box Tops to Big Star

I also prefer Wilco to either Son Volt or Uncle Tupelo.

Other possibilities for which I have no opinion either way but others might:

Robert Smith - Siouxsie & The Banshees to The Cure
Scott Weiland - Stone Temple Pilots to Velvet Revolver
Jeff Lynne/Roy Wood (briefly) - The Move to ELO (I have to go with The Move though)
Dave Grohl - Nirvana to Foo Fighters
Nick Lowe - Brinzley Schwarz to Nick Lowe or even Rockpile
Perry Farrell - Jane's Addiction to Pornos For Pyros
Steve Marriot - Small Faces to Humble Pie (I'll take the Small Faces here though)
Ronnie Lane/Ian McLagen/Kenney Jones - Small Faces to The Faces
Kenney Jones - Small Faces to The Faces to The Who
Richard Hell - Television to Richard Hell & Voidoids (depending on taste again)

I would mention Johnny Thunders and Jerry Nolan who did form the great Heartbreakers but topping the Dolls is simply not possible.



Post Edited (02-25-06 12:11)
ira
Re: Act 2
February 25, 2006 06:15PM
robert smith didn't graduate from the banshees to the cure, he deputized in the former after launching the latter.

sun kil moon and red house painters
not me, but some might argue magazine versus the buzzcocks
and how about Wings and the Beatles?


































(just kidding)



Post Edited (02-25-06 14:19)
Re: Act 2
February 25, 2006 06:33PM
I stand corrected. Smith replaced the Banshees' guitarist shortly after The Cure released their debut in 1979.

Another one:

Richard Thompson : Fairport Convention to Richard & Linda Thompson
Re: Act 2
February 25, 2006 09:14PM
OK, if the concept was not supposed to follow solo acts, but rather band names and post-breakups:
Descendants>All
Joy Division>New Order (most probably think so)
Birthday Party>Bad Seeds
Spiders from Mars>Tin Machine (kidding)
Treepeople>Built to Spill
Led Zeppelin>Whitesnake (just a palate cleanser)
Rifle Sport>Flour/Breaking Circus
CVB>Cracker *
Live Skull>Come
E Street Band>Weinberg 11 (what, doesn't count?)
Minutemen>fIREHOSE*
Fluid>Spell*
Ivy>Fountains of Wayne
Minor Threat>Fugazi
Game Theory>Loud Family*
Rancid>Transplants*
B.A.L.L.>Gumball
Smashing Pumpkins>Zwan (probably a palate cleanser; I can't tell fo sho)
Bauhaus>Love and Rockets
Sex Pistols>PIL (as a catalog)
Big Black>Rapeman
Gang of Four>Shriekback (have I mentioned that I don't get Go4 lately?)


*(again, most people probably think so)

Kneejerk conclusion - it's an unfortunate rarity for our artists in recent decades.



Post Edited (02-25-06 17:18)
ira
Re: Act 2
February 26, 2006 04:26AM
Ivy and Fountains don't qualify - Adam never left Ivy when FoW started up. He still hasn't.
Re: Act 2
February 26, 2006 12:13PM
miles is reverse answer

i like the classic quintet before cosey-fueled oddities


most people would disagree but
graham nash leaving hollies for csn amd y is a step up for some
others may actually like poco (i love) over buff s but i prefer orig
clapton trading yardbirds for cream gets people wet (i KNOW there were things in between) but nuttin can mess wit me y birds
jeff lynn left idle race for the move, a def step up (but that's sort oof like stevie leaving fine S davis group and finding true calling in more expansive traffic so does not count)
Re: Act 2
February 26, 2006 06:02PM


> miles is reverse answer
>
> i like the classic quintet before cosey-fueled oddities
>
>


wouldn't the cosey stuff be more like act 3 or 4?
Re: Act 2
March 01, 2006 11:17PM
Only because it bothers me that I didn't mention these before:

The Nazz to Todd Rundgren
Generation X to Billy Idol (solo output better than last two Gen X LPs anyway)
Stiv Bators - Dead Boys to Lords Of The New Church (good but not as good)
Brian James - The Damned to Lords Of The New Church (ditto)
Re: Act 2
March 02, 2006 04:35PM
While we're at it, how 'bout Nick Turner from the Barracudas to the Lords of the New Church?
Re: Act 2
February 26, 2006 09:00PM
specials - fun boy three
beat - the band that had the hit "tenderness"
throwing muses - belly
the fall - adult net
duran duran - power station

how about bands that keep their name but change all or almost all of their band members and still sound good (nrbq, love tractor)

some bands are based on changing members, ie - shriekback, golden palominos, gorillaz

some bands have to change their name but keep the same members, ie, zeitgeist - reivers
Re: Act 2
February 26, 2006 11:44PM


> specials - fun boy three



i think i liked act 3 the best of all...the colourfield!

well, at least that's the one that has aged the best for me...
Re: Act 2
February 26, 2006 02:32AM


> The discussion of Sugar in another thread made me wonder about
> this - is there anyone who rose to prominence in one
> well-respected band, it broke up, then they formed a second
> band that was better than the first?


ya know baker is gonna try to squeeze miles davis in here, right?

almost as predictable as my rob younger vote...

hehe, but we're both right for once!!!
Re: Act 2
February 26, 2006 01:25PM
"and how about Wings and the Beatles?"

While of course I don't prefer Wings to the Beatles, I will go on record as preferring BAND ON THE RUN on the whole to any post-REVOLVER Beatles album.

I would say the same thing about PLASTIC ONO BAND and ALL THINGS MUST PASS, also. I think all three of those are better complete albums than any of the later Beatles stuff, which mixed flashes of absolute brilliance with an awful lot of forgettable or irritating stuff.

Back to the main topic, I can see where people might prefer Mojave 3 to Slowdive. I don't, but I'm a Slowdive geek. But even I have to admit that Halsted & Goswell's songwriting is a hell of a lot better in Mojave. But for me nothing compares to Slowdive's atmospherics.
Re: Act 2
February 26, 2006 01:34PM
now if you had said post MMT i might fall in line

i was STUNNED btw listening to Ram the other day all cleaned up and sounding real peppy
Re: Act 2
February 26, 2006 03:50PM
While I don't profess to be a huge Beatles fan I much prefer the post-Rubber Soul stuff to anything before it. To me, there is a line of demarcation there from pop band to rock band...and a much more interesting one at that.

Back to topic:

I suppose King-bees/Manish Boys/Lower Third to David Bowie is kinda like cheating?
Re: Act 2
February 26, 2006 11:54PM
fire engines - nectarine no. 9

and i always loved the millions more than for against, too! but i know i'm in the minority there...

babes in toyland - katastrophy wife is almost a draw, i'd say.

i'm thinking there are plenty of potential kiwi nominees, too, but those kids were almost too incestuous to count. errrrrr, maybe toy love - tall dwarfs, but i'm shying away from going much further...
Re: Act 2
February 26, 2006 07:03PM
"there is a line of demarcation there from pop band to rock band"
I'll argue that the demarcation's from live rock band to studio manipulator(s). They were more consistent post-Revolver with much less filler but....wait a minute...wtf am I doing having the same exact beatles convo for the zillionth time? On to The Clash....

Reno, time to relearn me on the Slowdive. I've enjoyed a track here and there but never thought they compared to the CT/MVB/Lush axis. You see something else there; get me started.



Post Edited (02-27-06 17:01)
Re: Act 2
February 27, 2006 11:37PM
"Reno, time to relearn me on the Slowdive. I've enjoyed a track here and there but never thought they compared to the CT/MVB/Lush axis. You see something else there; get me started."

All the secrets of the universe are revealed in the last two minutes of "Catch the Breeze."
Re: Act 2
February 27, 2006 08:01AM
Camper Van>Cracker>Monks of Doom
The Jaggerz>Donnie Iris
Mannheim Steamroller>C.W. McCall
Re: Act 2
February 27, 2006 09:25AM
Band of Susans - Helmet

Dexys Midnight Runners - The Bureau (BOTH put out amazing first albums)

Whiskeytown - Ryan Adams (that's if you're counting going solo / always liked the Whiskeytown stuff a heap more / actuallly if you count going solo this could go on forever, forget I said Whiskeytown - Ryan Adams)

The Jam - The Style Council
Re: Act 2
February 27, 2006 09:59AM
i'm lost


but a person to go from one great band to an even greater band

skip spence

Jeff Air > MG
Re: Act 2
February 27, 2006 03:55PM
beat fine young canibals
Modern Lovers (mk1) Cars
Modern Lovers (mk1) Talking Heads
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