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Green thoughts
October 03, 2005 12:33AM
Note to the editor

Dear Ira,
Over the years I've appreciated the work that Jim Green has done at Trouser Press. In the second edition you mentioned he either played in or had ties to at least five bands in that edition. Please tell me, Who were those bands? thanks!
ira
Re: Green thoughts
October 03, 2005 02:34AM
ok, that's a good one. i'll ask jim and see if he recalls any more clearly than i do what i was referring to...

He managed Ronnie and the Jitters....rented a room to Chris Stamey....was replaced in Knickers by Jay Weiss of Milk n Cookies....errr....
Re: Green thoughts
October 03, 2005 05:56PM
Totte Bergström

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Re: Green thoughts
October 03, 2005 09:34PM
time notwithstanding, great music hasn't changed though. The same ingredients that went into the top 50 all time greats are still thought to exist today. I just listened to PAPA'S FRITAS HELIOSELF (heal yourself?) I swear there are moments within that CD that hark back to 'my generation/sell out' era WHO! The times they are a changin?



Post Edited (10-03-05 18:35)
Re: Green thoughts
October 31, 2005 05:11PM
oops, i wasn't paying attention, so pardon the late reply.

actually, i am the residents. no, er, make that, the fifth virgin prune. or is that the sixth?

i'm not sure who else i'm connected to. here's more than you could possibly want to know:

i used to special order singles for my tp column from a record store on the upper east side, near dave schulps's apartment. dave introduced me to the guy who worked there, who was really helpful, just a great guy. the latter told me a friend of his from back home had a band that was putting out its own single, and could he have them send it to me. i said fine, and got the first few singles by this group, and exchanged letters with their singer, then calling himself crocus behemoth. yup, the group was pere ubu.

the record store guy himself said he had a band, and would dave and i come see their first ever gig at max's kansas city. we said of course. his name was lux interior, and that was the cramps.

there's a blondie connection because jimmy destri was in knickers at the same time i was, previous to his joining blondie. (chris & debbie were sort of my neighbors for a few years, but i'm not sure that counts.)

i'm sort of connected to alex chilton because i encouraged my then-roommate chris stamey to audition to play bass in the band (not really his instrument either, i might add).

i got my friend lloyd fonoroff to go for the drum chair in the chilton group, which he got, except that he and alex never got along that well and alex was always looking to replace lloyd. anyway, that chilton band wasn't documented in the second edition - barely ever at all. and lloyd went on to follow his nutty dreams in paranoise, an edgy prog-rock-jazz-weirdness trio that put out an album on island in '93(?), which never made it into even the '90s tp guide.

however, i just thought of a pete frame family tree type item: ronnie & the jitters don't count because they weren't in the guide, only ever having released a single. but their last drummer was steve missal (in part he catalysed my giving up managing the group), who went on to drum on the first billy idol album (with "white wedding" etc). he may also have been on the preceding ep, "don't stop," but of course that wouldn't include "dancing with myself," which was recorded earlier by the final lineup of gen x.

i have heard repeatedly that jeff dahl's "rock'n'roll critic" (hint: not a paeon to rock reviewers) was about me. dahl went on to be lead singer of the angry samoans, but i think i was not the song's target, since, as dahl's own web site says, that song was his first single. Says the site's bio, "seminal hipster mag, trouser press, refers to jeff as a 'grade z ding dong' in his first ever review," which i guess would have been by me. (i don't actually remember it.)

there are no doubt a bunch more murky connections; i think the manager of john otway's group wanted to steal warren, the jitters sax player, and then there's all the stuff to do with my ill-starred pseudo-a&r relationship with phonogram uk, most of which is best left unsaid ...aside from my well-intentioned but utterly unsuccessful efforts to sign ork (chilton's then-label) and roky erickson, and then devo. what a mess.

i worked alongside danny fields at mji broadcasting for awhile, and of course danny used to manage the ramones. and still there's probably more ...

had enough? that'll teach you to ask such questions ...
Re: Green thoughts
October 31, 2005 06:06PM
What we got here's a regular seance, folks. (It is Halloween) Such perfect timing really though, because I just came across an old typed bio of sorts out of a Binky Philips Lp (Caroline '87). It's really cool. You go back even further down the time capsule than you just did above. Jim, Ira and Binky-The Campground Years."
Thanks Jim, you are wonderful. Oh jeez, one other thing, weren't you also a pool cleaner feller or hamburger slinger on that 90210 show years back as well?
Re: Green thoughts
October 31, 2005 09:52PM
and lloyd went on to follow his
> nutty dreams in paranoise, an edgy prog-rock-jazz-weirdness
> trio that put out an album on island in '93(?), which never
> made it into even the '90s tp guide.
>


wow, you've managed to come up with an album that almost makes belfegore sound good! haha

1988, btw.
Re: Green thoughts
November 03, 2005 05:05PM
Run Forrest run!
Re: Green thoughts
October 03, 2005 08:31PM
Wasn't Jim Green the *real* fifth Beatle?

Or perhaps he actually was the sixth Bay City Roller ... After all, that was a long time ago.
Re: Green thoughts
November 02, 2005 09:20PM
Steve asked, "Weren't you also a pool cleaner feller or hamburger slinger on that 90210 show years back as well?" On 90210 (on which I worked in post-production also) I served David Silver (played by Brian Austin Green, no relation) with a summons to appear in court. More rock'n'roll though is my star turn (NOT) in the Incubus video "Megalomaniac" (I play the live-action title character although there are also stills/clips of Hitler, Stalin & Mussolini). If nothing else it got my picture into the NY Times, and a friend gave me a name check in his column in the LA Times. Hi mom!
Re: Green thoughts
November 07, 2005 05:54PM
Life is like a box of Cracker Jack. You never know what booby prize you're gonna get.
Re: Green thoughts
November 07, 2005 07:58PM
yeah, like that time i found a filling (later I discovered it was my own) in one of those boxes.
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