Re: top ten glam moments

somewhere down the line between ten & twenty has to be the mick ronson 'moonage daydream' lead.

even more so now, since the DOC channel stopped airing those T REX/Tony Visconti monumental collaboration efforts.

Sweet – "Little Willy."

They had bigger singles than that one, but none that packed as much overall pizzazz.

Roxy Music - now, that's glam enough.

Seeing both old and new this afternoon at (of all places) Rachael Ray's SXSW party: the New York Dolls ripping up the main stage (including a couple of ass-rocking new tunes) and Semi Precious Weapons ruling the side stage. The latter don't have an album's worth of good songs in them yet, but once they do, look out. And the Dolls looked and sounded like they were having a blast - this is no nostalgia trip, but a revitalized band. Can't wait for the new record!

dusty ole 'ave a cuppa tea to the rescue!

thanks mike for dredging up this two week old post.
kateria was supposed to say something about either billy idol, rod stewart or john lydon but both of us have been drinking beer from a straw, wathcing the twelve hours of sebring (Fl. hi john!) and throwing chicken on the barbie.

the five CD disk player rages on but we've lost KATHLEEN somewhere along the way (now sleeping to ROD STEWART's Mercury '91 2disk Years).

Beacause no one actually can pass out to that right?

I forgot to change channels the other night and found myself watching The Phantom of the Paradise on one of the movie channels. It wasn't too great of a movie, but it did have an interesting Glam atmosphere to it.

I dig that film, as awful as it is. I can't imagine what anybody who made it was thinking, and it's refreshing to come across a movie that wasn't stitched together in the marketing office.

It was from that same post-Tommy era as the Rocky Horror Show, where people were all about wanting to create a rock opera. And glam definitely was the right era for that to happen, since over the top style and visuals were called for.

Didn't Brian DePalma write Phantom of the Paradise? I think he did, but am too lazy to look it up right now.

I know he directed it. Not sure if he wrote it as well.

I agree that glam and the rock musical seemed to be a perfect match, but it took until Hedwig & the Angry Inch for it to happen.

Speaking of horrible rock musicals, I watched The Apple over the weekend. Good god. It makes Phantom seem like fuckin' My Fair Lady in comparison. I recommend it just for the experience of seeing a movie into which a ton of money and ambition went, and is still wretched on every level.

10 "Glam Racket" by The Fall. (Just-ahh a moment ago)

09 Friends and I argue for a week over actual gender of Poison (1986).

08 Entire family grooves to Buster Poindexter at sister's high school graduation party. Clueless that he was a New York Doll, or even who the Dolls were. Gayness of Village People also totally missed during drunken "YMCA" sing-a-long (turn of last century).

07 Friend Mike O. gets fearfully f&*ked up and gets incredibly fou-fou haircut from alleged guy who is wearing makeup, frilly blouse, a houndstooth skirt, and a rhinestone "STYLIST" lapel pin (???). Was going for Rowland S. Howard look, but ends up looking like baggy-eyed Steve Shelley in a bad frightwig. "Stylist" is never seen again. (early 90s).

06 Cannot turn on MTV without seeing/hearing "The Glamorous Life" by Sheila E.. Slade also resurfaces about this time. Hah! (1984)

05 Der Bauhaus wedervereinigungen, versagen zu registrieren auf meinem persönlichen Richterskala(1998, 2005).

04 Velvet Goldmine (film) is "ok/so-so" (1998). Jonathan Rhys Meyers will later get role in "Bend It Like Beckham" and inexplicably opt for "ok/so-so" Indian chick over the profanity-inducing beauty of Keira Knightley.

03 Rykodisc reissues "The Rise & Fall Of Ziggy Stardust & The Spiders From Mars" as swank, two-LP set. Clear vinyl, baby! (Was it really 1990?)

02 Alice Cooper does The Muppet Show (1978).

01 Independent petty kingdom of Glywysing will eventually morph into Glamorgan, Wales (Circa 1091 AD. The rest is history, innit?)

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Now to throw gasoline on the fire:

Which is better? The "Post-Kiss / Suckass Hairmetal" branch of the Glam Family tree, or the "Post-Bolan/Bowie gothpop" variety? I think you can all guess where I stand.

Which is better? The "Post-Kiss / Suckass Hairmetal" branch of the Glam Family tree, or the "Post-Bolan/Bowie gothpop" variety? I think you can all guess where I stand."

What about the Finnish band the 69 Eyes, who combine both approaches?

Or didn't Gene Loves Jezebel do that already?



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Or didn't Gene Loves Jezebel do that already?

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Gene Loves Jezebel?

:::cue Crusty The Clown soundbite:::

Wretched bands of the Eighties do vex me!

"Kick" was a halfway decent tune, but not enough to sponge away all of the badness. What the hell was I thinking in high school?

Gene Loves Jezebel! The subjects of my all-time favorite Ira Robbins description: "a most unpleasant combination of U2, Van Halen and a billy goat."

Actually, I'd go ahead and say that on the whole Discover is a decent album, though HBK is correct in pointing out "Kick" as the best of the bunch.

And GLJ performed the useful service of being the subjects of insane devotion and love from Dave Thompson well into the mid-90s in Alternative Press, which alerted me to the fact that I didn't need to spend too much time considering his opinions on things - he was definitely coming from a much different place than I was.

I've given Gene Loves Jezebel plenty of chances over the years, including some of the solo work, but I eventually gave up. Even when they turn down the histrionics there's no "there" there.

I think Ira was dead on with his description. Maybe that's colored my vision as far as this band is concerned.

Nobody's taking my 69 Eyes bait, I see. Just as well - I gave that band plenty of chances as well, and in any incarnation (hair metal revivalists, goth rockers, the combo of the two they proffered on their most recent album) they're awful.

Mott the Hoople has always been interesting because they were at the glam party in the early 70s without being the least bit glamorous, and somehow became equally beloved by both punk and hair metal. That's a pretty neat trick.

I've always found it odd that Mott's biggest advocate is the singer from Def Leppard. Try as I might, I can't hear any Mott in "Pour Some Sugar On Me."

I wonder how many conversations on this board eventually make their way 'round to Mott the Hoople?

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I wonder how many conversations on this board eventually make their way 'round to Mott the Hoople?

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All I can ever think is "Mott's The Apple Juice."

... and don't bother dropping their name in any pick-up lines!

"Hey baby. You you still diggin' on Mott The Hoople?"

Wanna come on up and listen to some of my Mott The Hoople bootlegs?"

Is that a Mott The Hoople mirror you're wearing? 'Cause I can I can totally see myself in it!"(???)

I just like saying the name: "Mot-Tha-HOOple!"

FunnyThreadNotion:

"Worst Music-Related Pick-Up Lines Ever."

Real or made-up. I don't care.

"So ... you come to Diamanda Galas shows often?"

Why does that make me laugh? Strange as it might seem to me, it surely has to have happened. I imagine a dinner party composed of supposedly normal people:

"So how did you and Jane meet, John?"

"Oh. The same old thing, y'know? At a Diamanda Galas show."

"Oh? Plague Mass?"

"Yup."

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I see that Britney Spears is doing Kohl's catalog work. I wanna see Diamanda do L.L. Bean or Bass Pro Shops! Maybe I will if I can get my photoshop fired up.

I always thought it was pronounced "hupple". Probably because I heard this couplet before I ever heard the band itself:

"Though people say we're an unlikely couple
Doris Day, and Mott the Hoople"

What the hell do I know?

Maybe "couple" is pronounced like "coop'll?"

Where's John Cooper Clarke when you need a pronunciation issue resolved?

nosepail, the issue here is not what you know but what Daniel J knows, and i suggest that he was incorrect in his rendering for the needs of a rhyme. fwiw, Mott the Hoople took their name from a novel by Willard Manus (which I own and have re-read recently), which in turn took its name from a comic strip character named Major Hoople. I don't think it was ever meant to be pronounced other than the way it looks. but what do i know

Here's the thing: both bands know how to write a hook-filled tune.

I enjoy Mott the Hoople. And I enjoy Def Leppard. And The Darkness, for that matter. T Rex, not so much.

It's really all just music, right?

It's not like Miley Cyrus saying her favoritest band in the whole world is Radiohead...or is it?

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It's really all just music, right?

Frowns like Atahualpa.
Sets drink down on counter.
Brushes back Beethoven hair.
Removes Hubcap Diamond Star Halo.
Says morning prayer to Ra.

Short List of Expressionless Expressions regarding music that leave me mad enough to hunt bear with a stick:

"I just listen to whatever is on the radio."
"Well, if it's good, why haven't I heard of it before?"
"If it isn't popular it must not be very good."
"The new Bon Jovi ROCKS!"

and now I can add:

"It's really all just music, right?"

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At least you phrased it as a question. The TRL board is yonder.

Well, here's another great question for you then, Kay:

Close-minded much?

Wait, I know the answer already. Good luck with objectively measuring what's cool.

We could crack open our OEDs (or what have you) and look up the different definitions for "close-minded" and "opinionated," but why bother? We could mull over the entire notion of critical review, but why bother? We could all sit around and listen to Yanni and make cow eyes at each other. Who can muster up any sort of pulse when it is. all. just. music?

What an insipid, colorless world some people are content to wander around in.

To paraphrase Darwin:

"Arrogance? Opinion? These are not just concepts. They are trophies I keep in my den as paperweights!"

Maybe I'm just all riled up because you were so milquetoast about Bolan?

You "rock" after your own fashion and I'll rock after mine.

"Just music? HUMBUG!"

Oh yeah ... folks have been using these for ages. See if it helps:





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Or as John Milton said, "God bless us everyone." That was John Milton, wasn't it?

Eh, maybe you'd get more joy out of life if you listened to Golden Smog's (appropriately titled) Down by the Old Mainstream...Track #7 is highly recommended.

Life's too short, dude. Seriously.

"Oh. and. BTW. the. every-. word. period. thing. has. been. played. out. since. early. 2007," Jermoe stated. while. curling. his. handlebar. moustache.



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The very last thing that I have to say on this thread is that anyone who drops into a bulletin board on a music review website and spouts feel-good solecisms like "It's all just music" deserves to be (thank you Mr. Miller) "beaten like a narc at a biker rally."

Then, as they pick themselves up and limp home, they may feel free to twirl their Rollie Fingers / Salvadore Dali 'stache and quibble over typographic minutiae until the cows come home. I. don't. care.

Anyone who isn't of the Brassica family knows that it isn't just all music. Otherwise, there would be no need for the Trouser Press, this website, any critic or any opinion.

Anyone who wants to hold hands and sing "Kumbaya" is barking up the wrong tree.

Thank you for playing.

Say "goodnight Gracie."

I'd take the 'Indian chick' any day. I remember coming out of the first Pirates of the Caribbean film and my wife saying "that was pretty good but that woman's a bit fuckn' prissy".
Now that I've actually typed it, I guess she could have been referring to Orlando Bloom.

The great Ian McShane pronounced it the way it's spelled (HOO-pul) on Deadwood when he continually referred to people he disliked as "hoople heads."

I have no idea if it was a phrase that already existed or if the show writers invented it.

George Michael up to his hijinks in the men's room.