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I would have no problem shelling out more for an all time fave album on vinyl, but for a new album I am far more likely to buy a cd rather than just downloading (depending on the degree of how much I like it).
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I've tried the same comparison tests with a lot of my anal audiophile friends, and most couldn't tell the difference any better than T.V.'s coin toss example above.
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I told him the discussion may as well be over right there. "I can go to Target and spend a hundred bucks for a CD player, and it'll sound fine. It may not be top-of-the-line, it may not have all the bells & whistles, but it'll sound all right. But if I'm spending three grand, I don't care whether it's a turntable, a CD player, a tape deck or what. For that kind of money, I want a lot more than just great sound reproduction."
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That's a really good point too, that touches on John's comment about who buys vinyl these days.Quote
Another thing about albums was that if forced me to listen to the whole album at once
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Vinyl kicks ass. Its survival into the age where all information -- audio, video, or otherwise -- is humdrum and accessible to any suburban tweener is a testament to persistent humanity.
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There has always been a general audience for singles over albums, but it's really gotten ridiculous with iTunes "only buy the song you want". If an artist can't manage an album that isn't mostly keeper, then I'll simply not bother with them rather than piecemeal album tracks.
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By the time oil prices started to drop in the early 1980s Compact Discs players were becoming affordable and CDs started to displace LP phonograph records in the market.
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CD players offered a significant improvement in the accuracy of reproduction over comparably priced turntables and had the advantage of being more portable and easier for stores to stock.
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When car CD players became available CDs allowed you to play your music in your house and your car and quickly outsold cassette tape players.
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Not really. CDs were introduced in October 1982 but weren't hugely popular until at least 1985-86 after the US had pulled out of early 1980s recession and the prices of players started to drop to a reasonable consumer price point (under $200). Devices like the Sony CD Walkman ("Diskman") introduced in 1984 made the format very popular, particularly after Sony incorporated ESP (Electronic Skip Protection) to make the unit resistant to motion-induced dropouts. It was only after a large number of consumers had purchased their CD players and new media purchases started to shift away from vinyl records that the distributors took their cue and hastened the shift to compact discs.Quote
That's not quite how I remember it. CDs were introduced once in
the early to mid 80's and the format flopped. It wasn't until
the late 80's/early 90's, when the major distributors
effectively forced vinyl off the market, that CDs came to
dominate.
You are correct. Nonetheless, consumers eagerly bought CDs. For years it vexed and puzzled me, particularly when the quality of the audio on most early CDs was atrocious.Quote
> CD players offered a significant improvement in the
> accuracy of reproduction over comparably priced turntables and
> had the advantage of being more portable and easier for stores
> to stock.
Unfortunately, CDs were also considerably more expensive to the
consumer.
When I bought my Toyota Camry in 1994 the shift to CD players was already well under way. Almost equal numbers of CD and cassette players were sold. Within a couple of years the majority of new autos were selling with CD players. Yes, you could still choose between a CD or cassette deck, but by 1990 most purchasers were choosing the CD player.Quote
> When car CD players became available CDs allowed you to
> play your music in your house and your car and quickly outsold
> cassette tape players.
I don't recall car CD players becoming common until the 90's.
Even in the late 90's, a lot of cars still came with a cassette
player.
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Of course there will be no 8-Track revival, as there will be no revival of the Edison Phonograph Cylinder. 8-track players were atrocious mechanical monstrosities that, had sanity prevailed over marketing, would never have been produced.
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I recommend you read Wikipedia's 8-track tape entry. My experience was that most 8-track players were cheap, sloppily made units that had high levels of wow and flutter, lots of hiss and attenuated treble. They used a crude transport mechanism that made accurate control of tape speed impossible. The stereo 8 track layout reduced the usable track size, reducing fidelity and increasing tape noise. And the need to fit music onto small loops butchered albums. Once Japanese manufacturers started making huge improvements to cassette technology the 8-track was toast.Quote
> Of course there will be no 8-Track revival, as there
> will be no revival of the Edison Phonograph Cylinder. 8-track
> players were atrocious mechanical monstrosities that, had
> sanity prevailed over marketing, would never have been
> produced.
What was wrong with them? My recollection is that they sounded
better than cassettes. Didn't they use wider tape, or run at a
faster speed?
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Maybe everyone should say fuck it and kill every format except for downloads. There's no longer any practical reason to press a record, CD or tape.
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The thing that surprises me is that the vinyl trend didn't die when oil got up to over $147.00 a barrel, back in July. Shouldn't expensive oil be the final nail in the coffin for vinyl records? I find it hard to believe that it makes any economical sense to press vinyl records.
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There was a period of time where every band’s cassette sold, and then there was a period when only the most popular band’s cassettes sold, and there was no point in making cassettes for the smaller bands.
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A worn stylus quickly makes some groovy friends!
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Here's a particular nice one in your Jokes section:
Q. What’s the difference between a dead dog in the road and a dead jew in the road?
A. The dead dog has skid marks in front of it.
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Why dont you just get the fuck off this board since none of the decent people here has any interest in any comment you could possibly make on music or any other topic?
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If you actually cared about what's appropriate to this board you wouldn't have bothered to respond, let alone re-post/quote the comments.
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Igor's kind lusts for attention,
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and to feel persecuted.
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Let's just drop the whole thing.
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If he doesn't have the self-control to shut up, that's his problem.
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Let's not fuel it.
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Interesting posts about the future of vinyl, Igor. Can I ask why your blog contains a bunch of frightening comments about Jews and The Holocaust?
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Just curious....
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