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rebelwithoutaclue
ARTISTS WHO SUCESSFULLY REINVENTED THEMSELVES.
September 12, 2008 01:13AM
I was just reading about eric carmens dui arrest and was thinking about how he had moderate sucess in power pop with the rasberries which is im sure a band that many in here like. his later solo stuff im fairly sure most of us dont like or are indifferent.
which leads me to my question.
name a few artists who had commercial sucess and than reinvented themselves with more artistic integrity.

here are a few to start.

dion- reinvented himself with a aucoustic guitar n did a lot of folk n blues stuff.
rick nelson- in the late 60s n early 70s put out some good country music and did some great dylan covers.
aimeee mann- started out in till tuesday and her solo stuff although i find to be a mixed bag is def different.
dan zane- dont know if you can say he improved but he has had big sucess as with kids music as opposed to being in the del fuegos.
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Aitch
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September 12, 2008 05:02AM
Lisa Germano

And I'll have to give Everyman another spin before I say Simon Bonney, I seem to recall it not quite doing it for me, although I liked some of it.
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Neilantman
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September 21, 2008 10:07PM
Norman Cook----from the housemartins to be Fatboy Slim
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mjm716
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September 12, 2008 08:10AM
Mark Hollis

Robert Plant

The Monkees (Head)

Ginger Baker

Cibo Matto

The Cars (Ric Ocasek)

Bjork

Talking Heads

Cabaret Voltaire

Peter Gabriel

David Sylvian

Robert Fripp

Fugazi

Lloyd Cole (though the latter Cole never appealed to me, he seems to have managed arthouse for a steady crowd)

Beastie Boys (circa 90's)

Max Q =P

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breno
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September 12, 2008 11:00AM
Neil Halsted & Rachel Goswell - Listening to Mojave 3 rarely causes one to think "Wow, this really sounds like Slowdive."
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madisdadi
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September 12, 2008 12:37PM
Peter Noone
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satchmykels
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September 12, 2008 06:22PM
dave king went from fastway to flogging molly. umm, and those two fine young cannibal dudes.
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Delvin
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September 12, 2008 12:36PM
Talking Heads "had commercial sucess and than reinvented themselves with more artistic integrity"? Funny, I seem to recall that their music kept reaching a wider audience as their career went on ... but never lacked for artistic integrity, from first to last.

Tori Amos found much more success as a solo artist than with her band Y Kant Tori Read ... and as for integrity, she had nowhere to go but up.

Treat Her Right —> Morphine.

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mjm716
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September 12, 2008 05:20PM
I would say both Tom Tom Club and David Byrne as side projects were successful outside of the typical Heads fanbase, which by the time of Naked was more commerce than art.

I would second Mr. Rotten although like the Beasties and some others that could be mentioned, the initial artistic revival is looooong in the tooth.

The Passengers?

Julien Cope?

Steve Stevens?

Brand X? winking smiley

Dagmar Krause? =P

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larryepke
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September 12, 2008 03:24PM
David Bowie - about every other year, and often faster.
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diskojoe
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September 12, 2008 04:25PM
How about Manfred Mann?

Hey, Erik, glad to have you back. I was wondering what happened to you.
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erikalbany
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September 12, 2008 05:16PM
yeah, but I wish the latter version of Manfred had enforced better pronunciation on Springsteen's "Blinded by the Light"--that's confounded many a young listener over the year, including myself.

Good to be back...thanks for noticing.
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diskojoe
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September 12, 2008 05:58PM
You're welcome, Erik. It was getting a bit lonesome being the only member of the Nation. How's the Van the Man book going?
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erikalbany
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September 12, 2008 10:34PM
Joe: The Van Morrison thing is in the late stages--actually turned in a manuscript to the publisher but was asked for 10,000 more words (fine by me!). I'm embarking on a book about the work of Cormac McCarthy now for a different publisher. Quite a change of pace. How're things in the witch city?
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diskojoe
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September 14, 2008 01:42AM
Erik, things in the Witch City are OK. We're getting ready for the big STEVE convention next month a/k/a Halloween. It's going to be on a Friday night this year, so I'll be hunkered down in the basement after tossing candy to the kiddies.
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jcakp
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September 12, 2008 03:52PM
some might say john lydon...
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erikalbany
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September 12, 2008 04:03PM
Ira Robbins

...oh yeah: and Dave Grohl, Ray Charles (country music), and Paul Weller.



Post Edited (09-12-08 13:05)
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Delvin
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September 12, 2008 06:39PM
Which two guys from Fine Young Cannibals? I don't recall any of the three doing anything of note after that band called it a day. Perhaps they did, and I missed it. More details, please?
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breno
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September 12, 2008 07:27PM
I'm assuming Satch is referring to David Steele and Andy Cox, who went from the English Beat TO the Fine Young Cannibals. None of the Cannibals managed to reinvent themselves after that, although Roland Gift did try his hand at acting.
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Heff
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September 15, 2008 03:37PM
breno wrote:

> I'm assuming Satch is referring to David Steele and Andy Cox,
> who went from the English Beat TO the Fine Young Cannibals.
>

Didn't those two also have a side project called 'Two Men and a Drum Machine' or something like that? I remember seeing a video back in the `80's and I thought it was said they were in Fine Young Cannibals.
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Jermoe
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September 21, 2008 11:25PM
Between their stints in The English Beat and FYC, Steele and Cox recorded as 2 Men, a Drum Machine & a Trumpet. Their big 12" from 1987 was "Tired of Getting Pushed Around" (co-produced by the legendary Derrick May). I thought it was brilliant at the time, but, in retrospect drugs may have played a role in that assessment.

Re. the question:

Jeff Tweedy
Brian Wilson
Tanya Donnelly
Damon Albarn
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Delvin
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September 12, 2008 07:52PM
IMO, the Fine Young Cannibals was a step down for Steele and Cox, in terms of artistic integrity.

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breno
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September 12, 2008 08:07PM
I agree, but as far as reinventing themselves, I suppose it would be considered successful. It may not have been as good, but it was at least respectable.
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mjm716
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September 12, 2008 08:09PM
I would agree too and think this thread concept could easily be reversed... =)


Ian McCulloch, Roger Waters, Rolling Stones solo...

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Michael Toland
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September 12, 2008 08:12PM
"Rolling Stones solo..."

I dunno...I'd take Keith Richards' Talk is Cheap and Ronnie Wood's Slide on This (or his 70s albums) over anything the Stones have done since Exile On Main Street.

Jagger's solo work, though...brrrr...
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dj45rpm
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September 13, 2008 01:38AM
Still, compared to General Public, International Beat, and various psuedo-Beat incarnations led by Dave and/or Ranking Roger....

Also, Bob Mould had a successful "second life" with Sugar. David Byrne has done well post-Heads as well, even if he's more under the radar nowadays.
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Michael Toland
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September 13, 2008 04:53PM
Bob Mould didn't reinvent himself with Sugar, though - he just refined what he'd been doing with Husker Du. He arguably redefined himself with Workbook, though.
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rebelwithoutaclue
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September 13, 2008 01:33AM
jools holland- always had artistic integrity as the keyboard player in squeeze but kind of reinvented himself with the music show later and played with george harrison clapton and many other big names.
mark wahlberg- started out as marky mark and the funky bunch and from that became a real good actor.
the breeders- not saying they are better or worse than the pixies but the deal sisters did a great job being their own women.
penelope houston- started out with the avengers who were a punk band and her later solo stuff mixes country folk and are extremely melodic.
chuck prophet- was in green on red but now is a solo artist who is a real good guitarist songwriter n singer in his own rite. more bluesy
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STEVE
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September 13, 2008 01:51AM
X's john doe the actor



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Aitch
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September 15, 2008 01:56AM
"X's john doe the actor"

Hey this reminds me.
John Doe IS in the film A Matter Of Degrees - John Doe has a song called A Matter Of Degrees but it's NOT on the soundtrack - The Throwing Muses also have a song called A Matter Of Degress and it IS on the soundtrack.
What's all that about?
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Justj0hn
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September 13, 2008 11:18PM
The Underworld:from vapid verse/chorus/verse dance pop to groundbreaking drum and bass laden electronica.

My Bloody Valentine:from Birthday Party/Cramps inspired doomers to soundwarping blitzrockers.
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satchmykels
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September 14, 2008 03:56AM
ministry
swans
glenn danzig
rob straker
chris mars
marc riley
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zwirnm
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September 13, 2008 11:57PM
Consider Bob Mould is now a gay icon and dance/electronica DJ in Washington, I'd say he reinvented himself.

David Johannson reinvented himself as Buster Poindexter.
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rebelwithoutaclue
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September 14, 2008 12:41AM
good one about david jo cause he than reinvented himself as a blues and folk guy in the harry smiths
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rebelwithoutaclue
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September 14, 2008 12:07PM
peter case
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hoip chiggs
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September 14, 2008 04:24PM
Rod Stewart reinvented himself as a lounge singer, but maybe he always was one.

Madonna, as we all know, keeps reinventing herself. She's more hands off now, and her music is increasingly created by other people.

Jello Biafra is now a spoken-word artist / comedian.

LL Kool J went from big-time rapper to tinsel-town actor.

It's too nauseating to mention what Flava Flav is doing these days.
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satchmykels
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September 14, 2008 08:37PM

>
> It's too nauseating to mention what Flava Flav is doing these
> days.


nauseating to admit i actually watched the flav roast, but there was one really good line:

"you know why chuck d didn't show up tonight?"

"the d stands for dignity"

heehee
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satchmykels
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September 14, 2008 11:42PM

>
> nauseating to admit i actually watched the flav roast, but
> there was one really good line:
>
> "you know why chuck d didn't show up tonight?"
>
> "the d stands for dignity"
>

and whose line was that anyway?

patton oswalt, who has successfully reinvented himself as a comedian after his previous stint as a really tall midget.

no chris knox jokes, please.
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larryepke
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September 16, 2008 07:31PM
hoip chiggs mentioned that Jello Biafra is a spoken-word artist. So is Henry Rollins now.
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Michael Toland
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September 16, 2008 07:37PM
So is Rick Wakeman.
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R. Totale
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September 14, 2008 05:57PM
Scott Walker comes to mind.
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Nile
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September 14, 2008 11:45PM
Will Smith
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satchmykels
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September 14, 2008 11:47PM
ice cube used to swarm on any motherfucker in a blue uniform, now he makes kiddie movies. ouch
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dj45rpm
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September 16, 2008 12:15AM
I remember Ice T doing the acting thang as well ("Colors", etc.). Last seen on some CSI spinoff, which might not be a major but has to beat being seen in "Are We There Yet?"
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Michael Toland
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September 16, 2008 12:49PM
Ice T the (alleged) x-pimp is now a cop on Law & Order: Special Victims Unit.
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rebelwithoutaclue
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September 15, 2008 02:41AM
it might just be a coincidence. i would chalk it up to that.
that john doe song is great and its funny that i just listened to it twice last night.
love this set of lyrics especcially- " some people say they like to hear me talk, cause i tell them whats wrong, but i dont say much more than a man in a bar shooting his mouth off.
promises are broken with a yes sir no sir or we will see.
changes will come to steal what we love
call it disease but i know its a matter of degrees.
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madisdadi
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September 15, 2008 04:05PM
greg norton
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madisdadi
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September 16, 2008 04:17PM
mick jones
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madisdadi
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September 17, 2008 03:29PM
so is Lydia Lunch
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Delvin
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September 17, 2008 04:12PM
Hasn't she been doing the spoken-word thing for about 20 years now?

Actually, she'd fall into the category of "artists who mercifully reinvented themselves."

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satchmykels
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September 17, 2008 05:35PM
Delvin wrote:

> Hasn't she been doing the spoken-word thing for about 20 years
> now?
>
> Actually, she'd fall into the category of "artists who
> mercifully reinvented themselves."
>


the lyd put out a 7" backed by h.o.f. (halo of flies) earlier this year. it rips!!!
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Aitch
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September 23, 2008 05:52AM
Sean O'Hagan
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satchmykels
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September 23, 2008 06:56AM
michael nesmith
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Tom_Violence
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September 24, 2008 07:24PM
al jourgensen
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madisdadi
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September 25, 2008 03:12PM
bowzer
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