Welcome! Log In Create A New Profile

Advanced

Re: Do you disagree with the critics?

Message List New Topic Print View
Kevin S.
Do you disagree with the critics?
December 13, 2007 02:09AM
Are there any albums that are widely praised by critics that you just don't "get"? Or that you think are nowhere near their level of critical acclaim?

The first album that comes to my mind in this category is My Bloody Valentine's "Loveless." Every time that I try to listen to it, I am tempted to get rid of it by selling it to a used record store.
Reply Quote
breno
Re: Do you disagree with the critics?
December 13, 2007 02:31AM
Some dumbshit wrote on this very site that Goldfrapp's SUPERNATURE was disappointing, when in fact it may be their best overall album.

Oh wait...that was me. Oops.
Reply Quote
mats84
Re: Do you disagree with the critics?
December 13, 2007 07:05AM
There'll always be stuff people rave about that I don't get, since my taste is pretty narrow (3 minute pop songs with a backbeat) and the taste of critics - as a whole, needs to be reflecting a wider range of music and artists than I necessarily care about.

That seems fine to me. I know why critics love the Arcade Fire (they're right) and I know why I think they're good at what they do and respect them but never have the urge to actually listen to them (I'm right too).

The harder to get issue is having a band you dig get no critical love, or that seems to be passed over without being actually listened to closely. I never understood why critics didn't go crazy over Thin Lizzy for example. Great songs, great playing, what was the problem there?

Then there's that weirdo phenemenon where a critically reviled band ends up being praised by critics who eventually come around to the public's taste (Led Zeppelin). The "people have spoken" kind of thing.

Reply Quote
nosepail
Re: Do you disagree with the critics?
December 13, 2007 11:04AM
I find that the albums that Pitchfork raves about (9.0+ rating) inevitably bewilder me. To take a couple of examples from the last two years:

Scott Walker - The Drift
Animal Collective - Feels
Joanna Newsom - Ys
Panda Bear - Person Pitch
Mastodon - Blood Mountain
etc

I find each of these albums admirably experimental but essentially unlistenable. (Probably Illinois by Sufjan Stevens is equally bewilidering to some, but I actually like that one.) Do these critics listen to so much music that only extreme forms of experimentation can penetrate their jaded ears and anything "songy" sounds generic? or does Pitchfork just have an ideology which embraces this kind of stuff? or am I Philistine?



Post Edited (12-13-07 07:20)
Reply Quote
totaji
Re: Do you disagree with the critics?
December 13, 2007 04:11PM
Pitchfork is in the business of being trendy. Most of the music they praise has little lasting quality.

My - I don't get it award - goes to Big Star.
Reply Quote
Delvin
Re: Do you disagree with the critics?
December 13, 2007 01:08PM
Reprinted from a July 2005 post, with the poster's permission.

My own nominees:

The Beach Boys - Pet Sounds (Nice, but hardly worth the critical rapture it seems to evoke.)

Radiohead - Kid A (Since when is the creation of nebulous sound a more evolved musical pursuit than actual songwriting?)

R.E.M. - Out of Time (This one had the critics drooling, but half the songs here sound as if the band never bothered to finish writing them. From what I've seen since then, most critics have re-appraised this one.)

Wilco - Yankee Hotel Foxtrot (Another example of more effort going into the production than the songwriting. As for the album's much-ballyhooed rejection by Reprise and acceptance by another division of Warner ... does anyone else here smell a PR setup?)

Hole - Live Through This (With or without all the controversy that surrounds Courtney, her late husband, and whatever artistic relationship they might have had, this one just doesn't do it for me.)

Reply Quote
Heff
Re: Do you disagree with the critics?
December 13, 2007 04:40PM
Funny you mention Thin Lizzy - just yesterday on the allmusic home page there was something about how so many "hot" bands are reusing their hooks - Thin Lizzy hooks

I never thought Thin Lizzy was ignored by the critics, I've never heard anything bad about them - always good. Course, I don't have anything by them - maybe I should.

As for Pitchfork - well, remember most of the writers are teenagers or in their early 20's. Don't you remember when you were young, how the more abstract or difficult the music was, you were sure it was great? I thought that Codeine was some heavy stuff back then; listened to "The White Birch" recently - definitely does not hold the same allure as before.

I like "Loveless", I just don't think it was the greatest album on the `90's like the aforementioned Pitchfork did.
Reply Quote
dj45rpm
Re: Do you disagree with the critics?
January 19, 2008 04:21PM
>>Don't you remember when you were young, how the more abstract or difficult the music was, you were sure it was great?

Well, I still listen to the likes of Throbbing Gristle, early Cabaret Voltaire, Merzbow, etc. and read the dreaded Wire mag so some of us are apparently still that way. winking smiley

As for overrated:

Zappa, most definitely.
Beach Boys - Pet Sounds. Good, but not the second coming.
Nirvana - Nevermind. Again, not bad, but I think a certain reviewer got it right the first time when he gave it 3 stars instead of 5.
Beatles: Abbey Road. At least most people see Let It Be as a step down, but I can't believe how many people totally rate AR.
Royal Trux/Jon Spencer Blues Explosion. Further proof that Pussy Galore was more than the sum of its parts, or however that phrase goes.
Post-Damaged Black Flag. Yes some folks actually consider these albums to be superior to "Damaged", WTF?


And this doesn't include all the current "Critic's darlings" that'll be forgotten 5-10 years from now (don't expect any gushing Strokes or P.Spree retrospective articles around 2014 or so).
Reply Quote
Delvin
Re: Do you disagree with the critics?
December 13, 2007 07:45PM
> Don't you remember when you were young, how the more abstract or
> difficult the music was, you were sure it was great?

Maybe not, but I do remember thinking (at least for a while) that the music from my own generation, by definition, just had to be better than the stuff the older generation(s) listened to.

No doubt, that's a timeless attitude. King David may have been renowned, as a youth, for his harp-playing and singing, but eventually I'm sure the younger set blew him off. Whatev.

Best album of the '90s, in my opinion? What's the Story, Morning Glory, based on the perhaps overly simple-minded criterion of how much I enjoy it.

Reply Quote
totaji
Re: Do you disagree with the critics?
December 13, 2007 08:27PM
That Thin Lizzy hooks article mentions The Underdog. I think that song owes a far greater debt to Billy Joel.

I"ve always loved the album Jailbreak and listen to it everyonce in awhile.
Reply Quote
breno
Re: Do you disagree with the critics?
December 13, 2007 08:27PM
I would not argue with LOVELESS as best of the 90s, although it wouldn't be my choice. I would also never argue with anyone who found it unlistenable.
Reply Quote
Delvin
Re: Do you disagree with the critics?
December 13, 2007 08:55PM
There's little point in arguing with anyone about these sorts of thing, of course. Unless the point is to have some fun.
Reply Quote
Aitch
Re: Do you disagree with the critics?
December 14, 2007 12:18AM
The first thing that came to mind was Deserter's Songs.
Reply Quote
Kevin S.
Re: Do you disagree with the critics?
December 14, 2007 02:07AM
I also don't get Nine Inch Nails' "Downward Spiral."

I do like "Pretty Hate Machine" though. This dislike may have more to do with me not liking this kind of music. "Pretty Hate Machine" goes a long way with me . . . far enough that I don't need any more NIN.
Reply Quote
Delvin
Re: Do you disagree with the critics?
December 14, 2007 05:36PM
I feel the same way about Ministry and Psalm 22. One Ministry album (not necessarily that one) should be enough for practically anyone, IMO.

Reply Quote
satchmykels
Re: Do you disagree with the critics?
December 14, 2007 06:24PM

> One
> Ministry album (not necessarily that one) should be enough for
> practically anyone, IMO.



I'm taking two. Twitch and The Land of Rape and Honey.
Reply Quote
breno
Re: Do you disagree with the critics?
December 14, 2007 07:08PM
I was listening to an 80s station the other day and they played some stuff from WITH SYMPATHY, which I hated at the time but which now didn't sound so bad. Of course, I now have a soft spot for synth-pop of any sort from that era, so I'm sure it was nostalgia speaking to me rather than any actual quality in the music.
Reply Quote
diskojoe
Re: Do you disagree with the critics?
December 14, 2007 08:05PM
The White Hen Pantry around the corner from my office plays some sort of 80s station, which evokes the same feeling from me. A few months ago a woman caught me grooving to "My Sharona" while waiting in line and remarked, "That's our music".
Reply Quote
Michael Toland
Re: Do you disagree with the critics?
December 14, 2007 09:09PM
God, where do I start?

Arcade Fire
Spoon (though I do like that song that sounds like Thin Lizzy)
Arctic Monkeys (which is likely to get my virtual ass kicked on this board)
Radiohead (except for OK Computer, though even then I don't think it's anywhere near the best thing ever recorded)
Pavement
Archers of Loaf
Interpol
Kings of Leon
Devendra Banhart
Gene
Morrissey
The Polyphonic Spree
The Strokes
Cat Power
Bloc Party
Robert Earl Keen (though he's mainly a Texas thing)

Of course, any of this could change. I once thought critics were crazy for their support of Guided By Voices and Royal Trux, but over the years I've come to dig both.
Reply Quote
nosepail
Re: Do you disagree with the critics?
December 14, 2007 09:46PM
I hope you come to your senses on The Loaf as well. Bless you.
Reply Quote
STEVE
Re: Do you disagree with the critics?
December 15, 2007 09:29AM
Back to original question: by kevin s(alem?)
Are there any albums that are widely praised by critics that you just don't "get"?

I guess I would say some of the talking heads records seem to have wore out quickly on me without ever playing them much.

Maybe the philistines jr were right, "if i play it enough times I'll like it"
Reply Quote
diskojoe
Re: Do you disagree with the critics?
December 15, 2007 02:26PM
I must say that I was beguiled by Joanna Newsome when I saw a picture of her in MOJO & bought her first album, which I really didn't care for because of her grating voice. A year or so later, my niece requested Vs for a birthday gift, and I replied, really? I must ask her for her opinion.
Reply Quote
R. Totale
Re: Do you disagree with the critics?
December 19, 2007 05:22PM
I think YS is going to be like "Astral Weeks" and sell hundreds of copies a year forever. I love it myself, but can understand why people don't.

I've never understood how any critic could rate anything by the Doors or Beach Boys as anything other than what it is - the work of a decent singles band whose excesses were easily ignorable on B-sides but come off glaring when they made the mistake of making albums.
Reply Quote
STEVE
Re: Do you disagree with the critics?
December 29, 2007 08:00AM
Mr fab made me rwright this time, he's cool.

Anyway, the original question, that is, "do I ever disagree wift da critiks?"

Well, there was this one time.

Ira said somefing like, SLOAN's "Smeared" album is so good, the band has, (i adlib here) never again climbed it's heights.

He provokes just as much as the rest of us.

The second Sloan record, 'Twice Removed' is confident, LOUD and sweet.
I love it.

Sloan completed the trifecta with 'One Chord to Another' a hey, waitaminute we're not done yet blast of fun in the sun.

SLOAN is equally important to the 90's as the QUEERS.

People talk here in these parts about a resurgence.

In fact, SLOAN, like THIN LIZZY has never left.



Post Edited (12-29-07 04:15)
Reply Quote
M. Johnson
Re: LOVELESS
December 14, 2007 11:08PM
I heartily second your LOVELESS shrug.

I heard the disc for the first time just a couple of years ago, and am baffled by it's stature.

I've given it a half dozen attentive playthroughs and remain unimpressed.

Others mentioned in this thread:

Joanna Newsom- may someday collapse into herself, a singularity of preciousness.

YANKEE HOTEL FOXTROT- good, but overrated to a vast, vast, vast degree. (Vast!) Mostly, of course, for reasons that have nothing to do with the actual music.

Cat Power- MOONPIX is pretty great. But THE GREATEST is dull as some really dull thing.

And a extra-big "Oh, come ON!" goes to:

MIA



Post Edited (12-15-07 13:17)
Reply Quote
STEVE
Re: LOVELESS
December 15, 2007 08:17AM
Loveless is a tricky one. Because it's influence on everything since is so stark.

Historically, the band was lost between Kiwipop: Jean Paul Sartre Exp., Gordons, Clean, Bailter Space, Straightjacket Fits etc., UK pop i.e., Pale Saints via Scotland Cocteau Twins crossed with-my favorite blend Mid America ala Minneapolis Soul Asylum, Husker Du, Suburbs fusion. I am proud to be a member of this board in echoing the sentiments of many, that LOVELESS has attained the status as an undeniable and irreplacable classic.
No matter what it cost to make (half a million).

If that's not convincing enough, drink approximately six to ten Guinness' sit back in you favourite chair and dream of flying over the emerald isle.

Happy landings.

And now for the Toland tally and retort...
Artic Monkeys (-1)
Leon's Kings (-.5)
Deduct the -1.5 from an overall six you get +4.5, which is pretty good.

Industrial music was good, in the eighties, well done everyone. Add +.25 to
your current score.

Big Star, like LSU represents the SEC Conference, due respect.

The 90's gave us Hole, Belly, Breeders and Luscious Jackson which rank alonside eighties greats like Penelope Houston's Avengers, Holly Beth Vincent, Prentenders and 99 er Liquid Liquid. I'm keeping my copy of 'Live thru this'

Morrisey has made tons of hit songs. Good ones too.

And if M.I.A. is the same band that toured w/Dead or Alive cir '90 buy those fuckers a beer!



Post Edited (12-15-07 04:49)
Reply Quote
randysan
Re: Do you disagree with the critics?
December 15, 2007 01:57PM
loveless and ok computer both have tracks which move me deeply, but are not perfect albums as there are several songs on each which i skip over.

i am trying to "appreciate" MIA (cannot get through KALA)

tegan & sarah -- the con, there is likely something special lurking here, but this sounds very monotonous to me

cat power does not lift my skirt.

television and guided by voices get tremendous praise. i will need to invest some listening time on them some day.

---but maybe it's like what vonnegut said about how to know great art:
"look at a million paintings and you cannot go wrong", or something like that.

Reply Quote
Jermoe
Re: Do you disagree with the critics?
December 16, 2007 02:38AM
I do.

NEVERMIND - Nirvana
Reply Quote
breno
Re: Do you disagree with the critics?
December 16, 2007 11:43PM
Someone that I like just fine but am mystified by the critical adulation she receives is Feist. Decent voice, one or two great songs per album plus a lot of pleasant filler, charismatic and slightly sexy in a non-threatening sort of way - that's about it. Yet THE REMAINDER is turning up on just about every year-end best of list I've seen so far, but my reaction to it has never been more than, "Yeah, that's okay."

Actually, the orgasmic critical outpouring that greets any release by some ancillary member of any of the roughly 6 million Canadian collectives these days has me scratching my head. Broken Social Scene/New Pornographers/Stars, etc. and their component parts are all just dandy, but gee whiz - are critics so hard-up for things to celebrate that above-average but decidedly non-earth shattering power pop gets treated like the second coming of RUBBER SOUL?
Reply Quote
Kateire
Re: Do you disagree with the critics?
December 22, 2007 04:39AM
I once found a minuteman 12" stashed among other disco records.

I went home and played it. It was easily the best one strewn in alongside the thousands of others.

Like Mission of Burma, an equally unforgettable American band.

Reply Quote
STEVE
Re: Do you disagree with the critics?
January 19, 2008 06:58AM
I've looked everywhere and i cant find my 'porno wars' tee shirt.
Reply Quote
hoip chiggs
Re: Do you disagree with the critics?
January 23, 2008 01:22AM
Bruce Springsteen. His bloated working class everyman shit never sat well with me.
Reply Quote
bbluesman
Re: Do you disagree with the critics?
January 23, 2008 01:31AM
Springsteen? I saw him in Tucson when I was a burgeoning punk. Didn't really feel him and left after 45 minutes. As a punk the idea of staying for anyone's 2-3 hour show made no sense. To me Bruce at his worst is Meatloaf with the bombast turned down a couple of notches and more time on the Stairmaster. Just sayin.

Now get the brickbats ready-The Beatles of course are the most over-rated band of all time. Not a bad band, and maybe even great but certainly don't come any where near to the hype. In fact, I far prefer listening to the musical offspring of the Beatles like XTC and many others than the Pre-Fab Four.

McCartney??Puhleeze,silly love songs indeed. I'd much rather listen to Kevin Ayres any day of the week.
Reply Quote
hoip chiggs
Re: Do you disagree with the critics?
January 23, 2008 02:54PM
The Beatles are quaint. I only owned one Beatles album, and that was my Mom's! I never felt the need to collect them since their music was on the radio all the time back in the 70s. I enjoy more than a handful of their songs, so to me, they're a great band. They were there first, so you can't argue with that.

I think the Beatles reached their lowest point when they recorded Christmas albums every year. I remember hearing snippets from the Dr. Demento show. It just consisted of the moptops fooling around, jamming, and telling stupid jokes. They were all high as they slurred Merry Christmas at the end. It got to the point that even when they vomited, they were still adorable lads from Liverpool.

John Lennon's solo career was better than the Beatles. He really broadened his horizons, so it never bothered me that the Fab Four broke up. I'll even say that Wings wasn't bad either.
Reply Quote
diskojoe
Re: Do you disagree with the critics?
January 23, 2008 11:42PM
Although the Beatles did release Christmas records, they were only distributed through their fan club & were not widely distributed. They did get rather surreal from '66 on. I wish that they were reissued on CD. After 42+ straight years of listening to them, I think that the Beatles are both over & underrated.
Reply Quote
blasmo
Re: Do you disagree with the critics?
January 24, 2008 12:09AM
I have some Russian versions of the Beatles' albums, and they include a couple of these as bonus tracks. One is just them singing "Christmas Time is here again" in a very nice melody, and then Ringo says as the next line "O-U-T- Spells 'Out'!" They do this a few times, and then individually wish everyone a Happy Christmas.

I mean that each one of them wishes you a Happy Christmas, not that they wish every individual in the fan club, one at a time.

That line was probably not necessary, but I have been listening to Eddie Izzard today.
Reply Quote
diskojoe
Re: Do you disagree with the critics?
January 24, 2008 01:08PM
"Christmas Time Is Here Again" was released as an extra track in the Free As A Bird CD single.
Reply Quote
Kevin S.
Re: Minutemen, "DNOTD"
December 19, 2007 07:46AM
Minutemen "Double Nickels On The Dime"

I just borrowed this CD from the local library. It sounds like middling '80s punk to me. Can someone explain to me why this one is praised so much?

By the way, I do like SST punk, Black Flag, Bad Brains, Husker Du, et al.
Reply Quote
MrFab
Re: Minutemen,
December 19, 2007 05:14PM
Hmm, didn't know "Double Nickels On The Dime" was a critic's darling, but it certainly was one of the fave albums of my 80s youth. Far from "middling '80s punk," it spans, and transcends, genres, without getting academic or prog. I believe it was Robert Lloyd in the LA Weekly who said, they went "from funk to punk, folk to polka." They could even play jazz without it sounding like "fusion."

The killer, weird, almost inverted guitar riff in "Jesus and Tequila," the moving (and contrapuntally fascinating) "History Lesson pt 2," the fist-in-the-air working man's anthem "This Ain't No Picnic" that reveals Springsteen for the poseur that he is...chock full o'classics.

It is a 2 disk set tho, might be a lot to initially wade thru.



Post Edited (12-19-07 19:39)
Reply Quote
rhettlawrence
Re: Minutemen, "DNOTD"
December 19, 2007 10:31PM
Couldn'a said it better myself, Fab. It's my favorite album of all time and while I also dig the SST punk Kevin lists, I'm not sure the Minutemen could EVER have been considered a "punk" band and certainly not by the time of Double Nickels. If anything, I guess you could say they maybe tried their hand at too many things on the album and so it lacks consistency. On the other hand, that very variety makes it the perfect desert island album. A little something for everybody....
Reply Quote
Kevin S.
Re: Minutemen,
December 20, 2007 02:12AM
"it spans, and transcends, genres. ... they went 'from funk to punk, folk to polka.' They could even play jazz without it sounding like 'fusion.'"

Thanks for pointing this out. That must be why I don't like it. I don't like polka or jazz.
Reply Quote
Kevin S.
Re: Minutemen,
December 20, 2007 03:07AM
Re: "Hmm, didn't know 'Double Nickels On The Dime' was a critic's darling."

!!??

From Wikipedia:
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Accolades

Publication Country Accolade Rank
Blender U.S. The 100 Greatest American Albums of All Time 83
Rolling Stone U.S. The 500 Greatest Albums of All Time 411
Rolling Stone U.S. The Essential 200 Rock Records
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Also...
Spin Alternative Music Guide, #39 of 100 greatest albums of all time.

I've seen DNOTD on other 'best of' lists, but I think that I've made my case without posting them too.
Reply Quote
MrFab
Re: Minutemen,
December 20, 2007 05:16AM
Wow, it's stock has really risen. Believe me, it wasn't a media darling when it came out. I looked it up - RS originally gave it 3 1/2 stars, but only recently have upped it to 5.

If you see the DVD "We Jam Econo," they were playing backyard barbeques. I remember seeing them at a little college student union show - no-one knew who they were! What would D. Boon think...
Reply Quote
mats84
Re: Minutemen,
December 20, 2007 05:59AM
It finished 14th in the Pazz & Jop poll that year - that's pretty impressive (a full 15 spots higher than The Unforgettable Fire!).

Certainly was a college/free paper/CMJ fave upon release in '84 - the indie explosion of that year made sure it go some notice.

But I'm sure they wouldn't have suspected making the RS "500 greatest album of all time list" back then.

Reply Quote
Aitch
Re: Minutemen,
December 21, 2007 01:34AM
Delvin - Was Vedder's wife's band Hovercraft(?) the support act?
Reply Quote
bbluesman
Re: Minutemen, "DNOTD"
December 19, 2007 11:01PM
Minutemen to me is almost like the Zappa of SST genre all over the place-only with less snark more angst. I really love some of the Firehose stuff too. How can you not love a guy called Ed from Ohio?? Mike Watt still holding the bassline with Iggy, so dayum one fine lineage.
Reply Quote
MrFab
Re: Minutemen, "DNOTD"
December 19, 2007 11:46PM
I was kinda shocked to learn that one of my faves off the album, the mariachi-rocker "Corona," was the theme song to "Jackass." Well, that's one way for The Minutemen to get on MTV...
Reply Quote
rhettlawrence
Re: Minutemen, "DNOTD"
December 20, 2007 12:16AM
I do recall seeing the "This Ain't No Picnic" video on MTV exactly once.
Reply Quote
Delvin
Re: Do you disagree with the critics?
December 20, 2007 02:38PM
TP gave it a good review in the Record Guide(s), but didn't label it with that kind of world-historical significance.

Saw the Minutemen once, and Firehose several times. Always terrific live.

Also saw Mike Watt on his Ball-hog or Tugboat tour, with Vedder on guitar and Grohl on drums (man, I was lucky to get a ticket to that gig — pity that so many people went to see Watt's bandmates, even though their names didn't actually appear on the bill), and more recently, in the Stooges, where the guy looked as though he was fracturing his ass to keep up.

Reply Quote
madisdadi
Re: Do you disagree with the critics?
December 20, 2007 08:46PM
Mike Watt is 50 today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Reply Quote
breno
Re: Do you disagree with the critics?
December 20, 2007 09:45PM
And Patti Smith is 61!!!!!!!!!

Joe Strummer will be dead 5 years tomorrow.
Reply Quote
Delvin
Re: Do you disagree with the critics?
December 21, 2007 02:55PM
Yes, Hovercraft was the opening act. I didn't get into them very much. In fact, I wasn't aware till now that Vedder's wife was in the band.

Reply Quote
hoip chiggs
Re: Do you disagree with the critics?
January 18, 2008 06:34PM
Frank Zappa. I just don't get it.

For a guy who started out injecting humor into music, he wasn't that funny. Then he turned into a serious classical composer whose compositions went over my head. Shut up and play yer guitar indeed.

Don't get me wrong. I do respect the man's intelligence, prodigious talent, imagination, legacy, and creative facial hair, but I never really enjoyed him. I hate to say it but Weird Al is funnier than "Don't Eat The Yellow Snow" and "Valley Girls". Zappa's humor elicits smirks, not full blown laughs from the gut.

I'll chalk it up to the 70s and drugs. Guess I had to be in the scene to appreciate what he means.



Post Edited (01-18-08 14:41)
Reply Quote
bbluesman
Re: Do you disagree with the critics?
January 18, 2008 10:37PM
Hoip Chiggs-I totally agree with your post. My favorite Zappa album title ever was,confused smileyhut Up and Play Your Guitar." I never though he was funny, tolerable at best. Musically very gifted. I think Zappa was very much in his own head with humor and was playing to himself more so very navel-gazing lyrics with one wailing guitar and well charted band.
Reply Quote
hoip chiggs
Re: Do you disagree with the critics?
January 18, 2008 11:46PM
Whew!

Glad I'm not the only one!
Reply Quote
Delvin
Re: Do you disagree with the critics?
January 23, 2008 04:56PM
Chuck Klosterman included The Beatles on his list of the most accurately rated rock artists of all time. You can read that list here.

Reply Quote
Shizzle
Re: Do you disagree with the critics?
February 02, 2008 04:04PM
Yes (too much credit)

Roxy Music - Siren
Van Morrison - Astral Weeks
Minutemen - Double Nickels On The Dime
Elvis Costello - Armed Forces
Husker Du - Zen Arcade
Feelies - Crazy Rhythyms
Black Flag - Damaged
Arctic Monkeys - Whatever People Say I Am, That's What I'm Not
REM - Automatic For The People
Sufjan Stevens - Illinois
U2 - Joshua Tree

Yes (not enough credit)

Van Morrison - Into The Music
REM - Life's Rich Pageant
Elvis Costello - Trust
T. Rex - Futuristic Dragon
Husker Du - Warehouse
Johhny Thunders & Heartbreakers - L.A.M.F.
Pixies - Trompe Le Monde
Roxy Music - Roxy Music
Alex Chilton - Like Flies On Sherbert
David Johansen - In Style
Nikki Sudden - Bible Belt

Reply Quote
totaji
Re: Do you disagree with the critics?
February 02, 2008 05:17PM
Futuristic Dragon is a great album. But I think Zinc Alloy is also unfairly maligned too. Dandy does get enough credit though.
Reply Quote
Shizzle
Re: Do you disagree with the critics?
February 02, 2008 09:52PM
Point well taken as I've seen Zinc Alloy get hammered more times than it has any right to in any number of reviews. Head scratching when you think about it, since it really doesn't have much in the way of mediocre tracks and includes some of his best ones like Venus Loon, Explosive Mouth and Interstellar Soul.

Bolan's Zip Gun is the one that always gets lost in the shuffle for me in terms of how good I think it is. Dandy In The Underworld is one of those albums that I always think of as weak until I actually start listening to it. Maybe not his best but then again, T. Rex can do little wrong in my eyes.

Reply Quote
satchmykels
Re: Do you disagree with the critics?
February 02, 2008 11:35PM

> T. Rex can do little wrong in my eyes.
>


fo shizzle.
Reply Quote
Newer Topic Older Topic
Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.

Click here to login