Deadheads My senses detect closeted Deadheads on this board. Come out. Show yourselves. I'll admit liking some of the Dead's hits. However, I hate it when they jam. https://trouserpress.com/forum/read.php?1,20994,20994#msg-20994 Fri, 17 Apr 2026 16:34:16 -0500 Phorum 5.2.23 https://trouserpress.com/forum/read.php?1,20994,21203#msg-21203 Re: Deadheads https://trouserpress.com/forum/read.php?1,20994,21203#msg-21203
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well now, that is definitely kinda lame but i still have fond memories of them (or was it canned heat?) via me mums yie dyed days anyway. pirates cove cir '69-'70 west palm bch anyone?]]> STEVE Trouser Press Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:44:22 -0500 https://trouserpress.com/forum/read.php?1,20994,21191#msg-21191 Re: Deadheads https://trouserpress.com/forum/read.php?1,20994,21191#msg-21191 Delvin Trouser Press Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:58:44 -0500 https://trouserpress.com/forum/read.php?1,20994,21190#msg-21190 Re: Deadheads https://trouserpress.com/forum/read.php?1,20994,21190#msg-21190

songs about fucking is better than goat and liar put together but less great than atomizer which makes it sit in the penalty box for 2 minutes.

here's equation


ζ (z) = 1 / Π (1- pk-z) =1 + 1/2z + 1/3z + 1/4z + 1/5z + 1/6z +:]]> michael baker Trouser Press Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:48:43 -0500 https://trouserpress.com/forum/read.php?1,20994,21189#msg-21189 Re: Deadheads https://trouserpress.com/forum/read.php?1,20994,21189#msg-21189 blasmo Trouser Press Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:48:37 -0500 https://trouserpress.com/forum/read.php?1,20994,21186#msg-21186 Re: Deadheads https://trouserpress.com/forum/read.php?1,20994,21186#msg-21186
Five years ago, a friend took me to see a double bill at Red Rocks: The String Cheese Incident, and the Allman Brothers. The Allmans played first that night.

They played a 2-hour-45-minute set that kept me riveted from start to finish. Every note they played had weight and force. They could play long, drawn-out improvisational sections without ever forgetting that they were playing a song. And Gregg Allman sang with a sense of world-weary sorrow that made me believe every word. A truly great band.

After two hours of The String Cheese Incident, I was ready to go home. Maybe the Allmans simply had gotten there first with the most, but "the Cheese" just didn't do it for me. Compared to the Allmans, this band seemed just cute. They did some well-chosen covers, such as Talking Heads' "This Must Be the Place," but the way they drew even the best songs out made me lose interest. Great musicians, and great sound quality, but I simply was bored by them.

We did call it a night after two hours. I heard the following week that, by the time we made the 90-minute drive home, The String Cheese Incident was just about wrapping it up at Red Rocks.

]]> Delvin Trouser Press Wed, 24 Jun 2009 11:40:22 -0500 https://trouserpress.com/forum/read.php?1,20994,21185#msg-21185 Re: Deadheads https://trouserpress.com/forum/read.php?1,20994,21185#msg-21185 blasmo Trouser Press Wed, 24 Jun 2009 08:21:09 -0500 https://trouserpress.com/forum/read.php?1,20994,21184#msg-21184 Re: Deadheads https://trouserpress.com/forum/read.php?1,20994,21184#msg-21184
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goat and liar and atomizer are good lp's.

that's three. which is fewer than 4.

songs about fucking is a great lp

that makes 4. 4 is equal to 4.]]> satchmykels Trouser Press Wed, 24 Jun 2009 01:17:58 -0500 https://trouserpress.com/forum/read.php?1,20994,21183#msg-21183 Re: Deadheads https://trouserpress.com/forum/read.php?1,20994,21183#msg-21183
you miss my point:

goat and liar and atomizer are good lp's.

that's three. which is fewer than 4.

having some good songs on an lp does not make that LP really good.

and there are few jams on those dead lp's that i like/love/admire/respect.]]> michael baker Trouser Press Tue, 23 Jun 2009 23:56:03 -0500 https://trouserpress.com/forum/read.php?1,20994,21182#msg-21182 Re: Deadheads https://trouserpress.com/forum/read.php?1,20994,21182#msg-21182 www.youtube.com]]]> ncg Trouser Press Tue, 23 Jun 2009 23:48:47 -0500 https://trouserpress.com/forum/read.php?1,20994,21087#msg-21087 Re: Deadheads https://trouserpress.com/forum/read.php?1,20994,21087#msg-21087
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but 4 good lp's is more than jesus lizard and big black combined

It's all just music ...but I must take issue with the dubious opinion concerning the Jesus Lizard. You're so wrong about them. I puke in my white leather glove and slap it across the kisser of anyone who happens to not share my opinion! Goat and Liar are the best of the bunch, but all of their albums have good "tunes" on them. I should root around for my one-CD collection ("Comp") and post the track listing. Killer riffage, tight rhythm section, and the suavest frontman ever. Great promo photos! The one of Yow butt-nekkid atop the piano is priceless. What's not to love?
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And I'd rather listen to NOTHING BUT Big Black for the rest of my life than endure even a few more hours of crap-soundin'-Nth-generation-Dead-bootleg-listening HELL! I was under the impression that the subculture had been dealt it's (long overdue) death blow when Jerry G. "stopped touring," but it looks like it might still be alive ( ... little, patchouli-reekin' cockroach of a scene. Damned hard to kill). Perhaps it's just that I stopped hanging around with dopers?

Dunno. Anyway, here's the T-shirt I'm suggesting:

]]> HollowbodyKay Trouser Press Tue, 16 Jun 2009 19:12:52 -0500 https://trouserpress.com/forum/read.php?1,20994,21074#msg-21074 Re: Deadheads https://trouserpress.com/forum/read.php?1,20994,21074#msg-21074 Michael Toland Trouser Press Tue, 16 Jun 2009 12:19:37 -0500 https://trouserpress.com/forum/read.php?1,20994,21073#msg-21073 Re: Deadheads https://trouserpress.com/forum/read.php?1,20994,21073#msg-21073
Workingman’s dead
Anthem of the sun
s/t debut
American beauty]]> michael baker Trouser Press Tue, 16 Jun 2009 11:11:27 -0500 https://trouserpress.com/forum/read.php?1,20994,21072#msg-21072 Re: Deadheads https://trouserpress.com/forum/read.php?1,20994,21072#msg-21072
hate albini's production values but drums on JL were/are killer

go figure

cubs' ed reulbach in 1908 threw a pair of shutouts in doubleheader in midst of heated pennant race

he was so blind the cubs' catchers painted their mitts white when he was hurling

now that's a non sequitor!]]> michael baker Trouser Press Tue, 16 Jun 2009 11:09:42 -0500 https://trouserpress.com/forum/read.php?1,20994,21071#msg-21071 Re: Deadheads https://trouserpress.com/forum/read.php?1,20994,21071#msg-21071 blasmo Trouser Press Tue, 16 Jun 2009 11:06:12 -0500 https://trouserpress.com/forum/read.php?1,20994,21070#msg-21070 Re: Deadheads https://trouserpress.com/forum/read.php?1,20994,21070#msg-21070
How's that for a sequitur?]]> hoip chiggs Trouser Press Tue, 16 Jun 2009 11:02:09 -0500 https://trouserpress.com/forum/read.php?1,20994,21069#msg-21069 Re: Deadheads https://trouserpress.com/forum/read.php?1,20994,21069#msg-21069 michael baker Trouser Press Tue, 16 Jun 2009 10:38:51 -0500 https://trouserpress.com/forum/read.php?1,20994,21067#msg-21067 Re: Deadheads https://trouserpress.com/forum/read.php?1,20994,21067#msg-21067 nosepail Trouser Press Tue, 16 Jun 2009 10:34:34 -0500 https://trouserpress.com/forum/read.php?1,20994,21066#msg-21066 Re: Deadheads https://trouserpress.com/forum/read.php?1,20994,21066#msg-21066
the fact that they were all recorded by 1970 is a bad thing as is the fact they have 132 bad lps

but 4 good lp's is more than jesus lizard and big black combined

GFRR is ok, but compared to detroit powerhouses of their time, they kind of sound watery, lame to me, trying too hard to be "hard"

i'll take SRC over Farner]]> michael baker Trouser Press Tue, 16 Jun 2009 10:30:51 -0500 https://trouserpress.com/forum/read.php?1,20994,21062#msg-21062 Re: Deadheads https://trouserpress.com/forum/read.php?1,20994,21062#msg-21062 Aitch Trouser Press Tue, 16 Jun 2009 01:09:25 -0500 https://trouserpress.com/forum/read.php?1,20994,21059#msg-21059 Re: Deadheads https://trouserpress.com/forum/read.php?1,20994,21059#msg-21059
Jay

]]> Jay Trouser Press Tue, 16 Jun 2009 00:05:23 -0500 https://trouserpress.com/forum/read.php?1,20994,21058#msg-21058 Re: Deadheads https://trouserpress.com/forum/read.php?1,20994,21058#msg-21058 Granted the Velvet Underground (who KNEW how to 'draw out' a song without going into wankdom) probably hit that a few times with 'Sister Ray' but that was a 17-minute song to begin with, not like the less-than=3-minutes 'JBG'.]]> dj45rpm Trouser Press Mon, 15 Jun 2009 23:33:43 -0500 https://trouserpress.com/forum/read.php?1,20994,21050#msg-21050 Re: Deadheads https://trouserpress.com/forum/read.php?1,20994,21050#msg-21050
I think the Dead wrote one good song, "Friend of the Devil," but every cover of it I've ever heard beats the living shit out of the Dead's original. Including the version my brother-in-law and I used to do in our backyard bluegrass band.

I guess Los Lobos do a good version of "Bertha," but that's because they make it sound like they wrote it (which is what I thought for years).]]> Michael Toland Trouser Press Mon, 15 Jun 2009 19:00:53 -0500 https://trouserpress.com/forum/read.php?1,20994,21049#msg-21049 Re: Deadheads https://trouserpress.com/forum/read.php?1,20994,21049#msg-21049
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My personal belief is that the Grateful Dead is absolutely the worst rock band ever. Period.

I'm no lover of the Dead, but they figured prominently in the last episode of Freaks and Geeks and therefore get a small measure of affection from me. Plus, I actually do like the song "Ripple." It's the only Dead song I like, but it's a nice one.

My vote for the worst band ever is the grisly '90s schmucks Train. They actually found the few good (or at least tolerable) aspects of Counting Crows and Matchbox 20, REMOVED them, and built a career on what was left. I suspect when I die and go to Hell, my punishment will be to spend eternity in a car stuck in traffic behind an old lady with nothing on the radio anywhere except "Meet Virginia."]]> breno Trouser Press Mon, 15 Jun 2009 18:00:41 -0500 https://trouserpress.com/forum/read.php?1,20994,21047#msg-21047 Re: Deadheads https://trouserpress.com/forum/read.php?1,20994,21047#msg-21047
During one of the lulls in "I'm Your Captain/Closer to Home" he tried to explain how the song presaged his eventual embrace of Christianity(?), before delivering a lengthy riff on how there were still POWs in Vietnam, but the US government didn't want us to know about it. A large portion of the crowd got worked up, cried and wailed at this point–I've never been to a Pentecostal church, but that was sort of the vibe (plus lots of weed).]]> Jermoe Trouser Press Mon, 15 Jun 2009 16:15:04 -0500 https://trouserpress.com/forum/read.php?1,20994,21045#msg-21045 Re: Deadheads https://trouserpress.com/forum/read.php?1,20994,21045#msg-21045 Heff Trouser Press Mon, 15 Jun 2009 14:38:35 -0500 https://trouserpress.com/forum/read.php?1,20994,21044#msg-21044 Re: Deadheads https://trouserpress.com/forum/read.php?1,20994,21044#msg-21044
Not that I'd go see him either way (I have a fondness for a lot of 70s hard rockers, but GRF ain't one of 'em). I'm just curious.



Post Edited (06-15-09 12:30)]]> Michael Toland Trouser Press Mon, 15 Jun 2009 14:30:07 -0500 https://trouserpress.com/forum/read.php?1,20994,21042#msg-21042 Re: Deadheads https://trouserpress.com/forum/read.php?1,20994,21042#msg-21042 musicians they all are/were. Phish fans do that a lot, too. It's not that I think they're unskilled, it's that I simply do not enjoy their music.

The other great argument? "Oh, but you have to see them live!" Admittedly, I've made this claim myself (The Hold Steady, Wilco, Richman, Springsteen, CV Beethoven, even freaking Adrian Legg, who really is amazing in person), so I can't claim to have the moral high ground, but...I recognize that I am incapable of getting it, and am fairly certain I'd be bored and aggravated throughout the show, so why bother? It is possible I'd enjoy seeing the Dead, but I'm okay with not finding out one way or the other.

I saw Mark Farner play at Atlanta's Music Midtown festival about 6 or 7 years ago. Farner's manager was the ex-boyfriend of one of my friends. He gave us tickets to the festival as long as we promised to give Farner a shot. It was a tense and unpleasant experience. After the set, the ex-boyfriend guy asked us if we wanted to go hang out backstage. Ummm, no.

Farner was followed by a local Neil Diamond tribute band called Hot August Knights, doing hard rock versions of Diamond songs. Their act was not well-received by the Farner partisans.



Post Edited (06-15-09 12:18)]]> Jermoe Trouser Press Mon, 15 Jun 2009 14:18:02 -0500 https://trouserpress.com/forum/read.php?1,20994,21038#msg-21038 Re: Deadheads https://trouserpress.com/forum/read.php?1,20994,21038#msg-21038
What does a Deadhead say when he comes down?

"Who is this band? They suck!"

]]> Delvin Trouser Press Mon, 15 Jun 2009 12:46:03 -0500 https://trouserpress.com/forum/read.php?1,20994,21037#msg-21037 Re: What's a "Deadhead?" https://trouserpress.com/forum/read.php?1,20994,21037#msg-21037 Michael Toland Trouser Press Mon, 15 Jun 2009 12:39:49 -0500 https://trouserpress.com/forum/read.php?1,20994,21036#msg-21036 Re: What's a "Deadhead?" https://trouserpress.com/forum/read.php?1,20994,21036#msg-21036

Mike: Can anyone tell me why we're dressed like this again?


Tom: Mike, remember, the name of the movie is The Dead Talk Back. We're The Dead, get it?


Gypsy: (as a Deadhead, apparently finishing a story she was telling) ...then the moon came out and it was like Jerry willed it!


Crow: Come on Mike, really dude.


Mike: Okay, freak freely.


(they begin playing, singing)


Been ridin' on that cosmic freight train

Feelin' bad.

And don't you come around here anymore.


(to Crow) Take it!


(Crow plays a very long, meandering guitar solo until movie sign)]]> blasmo Trouser Press Mon, 15 Jun 2009 12:31:09 -0500