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Author: breno
Date: 08-13-12 23:51
Pitchfork has some damn thing where you can make your list of your favorite albums from the list 15 years, and you can pick a minimum of 20 and a maximum of 100.
Here's mine. None of you will agree, but who gives a damn. Give me any guff about my list and I'll punch you in the throat, because I'm feeling crabby right now.
http://tinyurl.com/9mygatz
And here's my brother's list. We only share five or six choices, but his is mighty fine. He's a little less of an art nerd than I am.
http://tinyurl.com/8v6bx6b
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Author: zoo
Date: 08-14-12 08:30
I'll have to give this a go later, but I like that you included Bowie, Starflyer 59, and TGTBATQ.
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Author: mats84
Date: 08-14-12 17:47
Ok, I can give a shot at 20 - no artist repeated, no order :
Spoon - Ga ga ga ga ga
Ike Reilly Assassination - We Belong To The Staggering Evening
Exploding Hearts - Guitar Romantic
Strokes - Is This It
Weezer - Pinkerton
Libertines - Up the Bracket
Bob Dylan - Love & Theft
Elvis Costello - When I Was Cruel
Tom Waits - Mule Variations
Paul Westerberg - Come Feel Me Tremble
Wilco - Summerteeth
Black Lips - Arabia Mountain
The National - Boxer
Radiohead - OK Computer
Sleater-Kinney - One Beat
Interpol - Turn On The Bright Lights
Bonnie "Prince" Billy - I See A Darkness
Built To Spill - Keep It Like A Secret
The Reigning Sound - Time Bomb High School
GBV - Isolation Drills
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Author: totaji
Date: 08-15-12 10:20
http://peopleslist.pitchfork.com/list/5bed4598/
I fiddled around with this list for a while. Ordering music is always tough. I am pretty sure about my top ten, the rest is prety relative.
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Author: zoo
Date: 08-15-12 10:26
Nice, nose. We share exactly one! (Fox Confessor...).
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Author: Aitch
Date: 08-16-12 05:15
I did a Top 40. BTW breno, the new Dappled Cities platter is out this week.
http://peopleslist.pitchfork.com/list/19f74b4f/
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Author: totaji
Date: 08-17-12 13:41
Mr. Pitchfork himself's list:
http://peopleslist.pitchfork.com/list/43b169a7/
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Author: nosepail
Date: 08-17-12 15:13
hmmm, I think I was burnt by the 1996/1997 thing (In programming, we call this a "fencepost bug"). I certainly would have included DJ Shadow in my top 10, if I knew it was allowed!
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Author: totaji
Date: 08-17-12 16:08
I've never heard that DJ Shadow album but have heard alot of good stuff about it. I need to get it sometime.
The time frame is so freakin arbitrary outside of Pitchfork it was kind of hard to do. I initially put an early 2012 album on the list but went back and changed it.
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Author: STEVE
Date: 08-17-12 16:09
i've been completely off the grid for new music since '06. But i can tell you, any list that does not contain MAXIMO PARK's - Our Earthly Pleasures gets demerits.
the past fifteen years is divided by war.
my pre war favorite album: the SMUGGLERS - Rosie 2000
post 9-11: DIRTY PRETTY THINGS- Waterloo to Anywhere '06
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Author: Jermoe
Date: 08-17-12 21:59
totalj, I hope you listen to Entroducing... sooner rather than later. I'm listening to it for approximately the 600th time right now. Intentionally or not, this album ended up being the swan song for that style of sample-based music. The Chemical Brothers, Fatboy Slim and The Prodigy were about to take things in an entirely different direction.
The first 3 tracks on Endtroducing ("Best Foot Forward," "Building Steam with a Grain of Salt" and "The Number Song") are almost as potent as "Janie Jones," "Remote Control" and "I'm So Bored with the USA"...
DJ Shadow throwing in bits of John Carpenter's Prince of Darkness? Sheer pothead brilliance.
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Author: STEVE
Date: 08-17-12 22:56
good point Jmoe.
i think Spacemen 3 said it best, i'm paraphrasing here; 'growing marijuana to smoke to play music to smoke marijuana to'
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Author: Aitch
Date: 08-18-12 04:11
Endtroducing's definitely within the date range (Nov '96 according to Wiki). I love it and The Private Press equally.
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Author: Paganizer
Date: 08-18-12 04:38
125 is easy. Whittling those 25 down, difficult. I really need the extra 25.
I found the only way was to chop multiple titles from the same artist (except for the prolifically too consistent YLT and the just-prolific Fall). e.g. I choose just one Belle & Sebastian. Ladies and Gentleman (remaster) was on my whittled, imported list but I see I skipped the click-and-add. D'oh! Same for Father Son Holy Ghost and Good, Bad, Queen (though I don't know what I'd have pulled) and...shit...I see, well, a couple more now. (Art Brut, Grandaddy, Delgados, +/-, Brakes, Handsome Furs, Deerhunter, Atlas Sound, Weddoes, Wolf Parade, Stereolab, Mould, OTC, Supergrass, Beta Band, Young Gods, Leatherface, BRMC, Church). Given time to think on the challenge I suppose I could do it proper (e.g. shouldn't Red Barked Tree be exchanged for Object 47)? But given that it's just Pitchfork and an arbitrary time span...
14 of my picks don't show in their database which reports two things:
-The concept is heavily weighted to the last 10 years (as is their readership), unmindful of the stated date range
-The daily's focus on mainstream, rap, dark-metal-prog-, IDM and bleep-blip/laptop while posing as indie (which, as I see now, reflects Schreiber, as it probably should)
2 Stat problems:
*Bands with multiple good albums will not be collated in the finals; statistically, each great album they have cuts their chances by that amount because people will likely choose just 1 or 2 from that artists. Mtn Goats? Forget it - one LP from them won't surface
*Because I didn't add the definite article to bands like the Fall, they will not be counted. This wasn't clear in the instructions and will largely skew stats as well
Ordering isn't really possible past a couple dozen or so. I didn't see a way to change/import the user name so I ended up with a garbled string which is arguably better. My list will confirm I have little taste in common with people on this board, but still thought I'd share.
~~
Who is Bonnie Bear?
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Author: totaji
Date: 08-22-12 13:21
That list reminds me that my listening habits are not Pitchforkish in the least and I have very little in common with the average Pitchfork listener. Of course I was never on board with some of the big Alt acts of last couple of decades - Wilco, Radiohead, and Arcade Fire.
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Author: nosepail
Date: 08-22-12 16:49
Complete list with dates (I gave up adding dates after first 100...too lazy)
1 Radiohead - OK Computer (1997)
2 Radiohead - Kid A (2000)
3 Arcade Fire - Funeral (2004)
4 Neutral Milk Hotel - In the Aeroplane Over the Sea (1998)
5 The Strokes - Is This It (2001)
6 Radiohead - In Rainbows (2007)
7 Wilco - Yankee Hotel Foxtrot (2002)
8 Animal Collective - Merriweather Post Pavilion (2009)
9 Kanye West - My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy (2010)
10 Sufjan Stevens - Illinois (2005)
11 LCD Soundsystem - Sound of Silver (2007)
12 Interpol - Turn On the Bright Lights (2002)
13 Bon Iver - For Emma, Forever Ago (2008)
14 The Flaming Lips - The Soft Bulletin (1999)
15 The xx - The xx (2009)
16 Arcade Fire - The Suburbs (2010)
17 Modest Mouse - The Moon & Antarctica (2000)
18 Fleet Foxes - Fleet Foxes (2008)
19 The Flaming Lips - Yoshimi Battles The Pink Robots (2002)
20 Radiohead - Amnesiac (2001)
21 The White Stripes - Elephant (2003)
22 The White Stripes - White Blood Cells (2001)
23 Grizzly Bear - Veckatimest (2009)
24 The National - Boxer (2007)
25 Broken Social Scene - You Forgot It in People (2002)
26 Daft Punk - Discovery (2001)
27 Vampire Weekend - Vampire Weekend (2008)
28 Bon Iver - Bon Iver (2011)
29 DJ Shadow - ...Endtroducing (1996)
30 Beck - Odelay (1996)
31 Belle And Sebastian - If You're Feeling Sinister (1996)
32 Beach House - Teen Dream (2010)
33 Modest Mouse - The Lonesome Crowded West (1997)
34 LCD Soundsystem - This Is Happening (2010)
35 OutKast - Stankonia (2000)
36 Phoenix - Wolfgang Amadeus Phoenix (2009)
37 Elliott Smith - Either/Or (1997)
38 Arcade Fire - Neon Bible (2007)
39 Kanye West - The College Dropout (2004)
40 Radiohead - Hail to the Thief (2003)
41 Panda Bear - Person Pitch (2007)
42 Madvillain - Madvillainy (2004)
43 The Postal Service - Give Up (2003)
44 Animal Collective - Strawberry Jam (2007)
45 Sigur Rós - Ágætis Byrjun (1999)
46 The Avalanches - Since I Left You (2000)
47 The Shins - Chutes Too Narrow (2003)
48 Dirty Projectors - Bitte Orca (2009)
49 Spiritualized - Ladies and Gentlemen, We Are Floating in Space (1997)
50 Beck - Sea Change (2002)
51 Björk - Homogenic (1997)
52 The Magnetic Fields - 69 Love Songs (1999)
53 Modest Mouse - Good News for People Who Love Bad News (2004)
54 The National - High Violet (2010)
55 The Shins - Oh, Inverted World (2001)
56 Arctic Monkeys - Whatever People Say I Am, That's What I'm Not (2006)
57 Yo La Tengo - I Can Hear the Heart Beating as One (1997)
58 Kanye West - Late Registration (2005)
59 Massive Attack - Mezzanine (1998)
60 Burial - Untrue (2007)
61 Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Fever to Tell (2003)
62 Boards of Canada - Music Has the Right to Children (1998)
63 Deerhunter - Halcyon Digest (2010)
64 Bloc Party - Silent Alarm (2005)
65 M83 - Hurry Up, We're Dreaming (2011)
66 Jay-Z - The Blueprint (2001)
67 Animal Collective - Feels (2005)
68 Queens of the Stone Age - Songs for the Deaf (2002)
69 Sigur Rós - ( ) (2002)
70 Franz Ferdinand - Franz Ferdinand (2004)
71 James Blake - James Blake (2011)
72 Daft Punk - Homework (1997)
73 Portishead - Third (2008)
74 The National - Alligator (2005)
75 Animal Collective - Sung Tongs (2004)
76 The Strokes - Room on Fire (2003)
77 Wilco - Summerteeth (1999)
78 Elliott Smith - XO (1998)
79 Justice - † (2007)
80 Deerhunter - Microcastle/Weird Era Cont. (2008)
81 TV on the Radio - Dear Science (2008)
82 Fleet Foxes - Helplessness Blues (2011)
83 The Knife - Silent Shout (2006)
84 Outkast - Aquemini (1998)
85 TV on the Radio - Return to Cookie Mountain (2006)
86 Built to Spill - Keep it Like a Secret (1999)
87 Air - Moon Safari (1998)
88 Vampire Weekend - Contra (2010)
89 OutKast - Speakerboxxx/The Love Below (2003)
90 Kanye West - Graduation (2007)
91 Wolf Parade - Apologies to the Queen Mary (2005)
92 LCD Soundsystem - LCD Soundsystem (2005)
93 The Antlers - Hospice (2009)
94 Jay-Z - The Black Album (2003)
95 Of Montreal - Hissing Fauna, Are You the Destroyer? (2007)
96 Spoon - Kill the Moonlight (2002)
97 Spoon - Ga Ga Ga Ga Ga (2007)
98 M.I.A. - Kala (2007)
99 Girls - Album (2009)
100 The Microphones - The Glow, Pt. 2
101 Joanna Newsom - Ys
102 Aphex Twin - The Richard D. James Album
103 The Dismemberment Plan - Emergency and I
104 Built to Spill - Perfect from Now On
105 Grizzly Bear - Yellow House
106 Interpol - Antics
107 M83 - Saturdays=Youth
108 The Weeknd - House of Balloons
109 Bonnie "Prince" Billy - I See a Darkness
110 Blur - 13
111 Sufjan Stevens - Greetings from Michigan: The Great Lakes State
112 J Dilla - Donuts
113 St. Vincent - Strange Mercy
114 Justin Timberlake - FutureSex/LoveSounds
115 Destroyer - Kaputt
116 Feist - The Reminder
117 Ryan Adams - Heartbreaker
118 Weezer - Pinkerton
119 Iron & Wine - Our Endless Numbered Days
120 Real Estate - Days
121 Eminem - The Marshall Mathers LP
122 Girls - Father, Son, Holy Ghost
123 Flying Lotus - Cosmogramma
124 Elliott Smith - Figure 8
125 PJ Harvey - Stories From the City, Stories From the Sea
126 Clap Your Hands Say Yeah - Clap Your Hands Say Yeah
127 Jay-Z / Kanye West - Watch the Throne
128 Sufjan Stevens - The Age of Adz
129 Crystal Castles - Crystal Castles
130 Band of Horses - Everything All the Time
131 Sleigh Bells - Treats
132 Japandroids - Post-Nothing
133 Yo La Tengo - And Then Nothing Turned Itself Inside-Out
134 Battles - Mirrored
135 My Morning Jacket - Z
136 Björk - Vespertine
137 Titus Andronicus - The Monitor
138 Gorillaz - Plastic Beach
139 Sufjan Stevens - Seven Swans
140 PJ Harvey - Let England Shake
141 St. Vincent - Actor
142 tUnE-yArDs - w h o k i l l
143 Joanna Newsom - The Milk-Eyed Mender
144 The Unicorns - Who Will Cut Our Hair When We're Gone?
145 Caribou - Swim
146 Passion Pit - Manners
147 The Hold Steady - Boys and Girls in America
148 Tame Impala - Innerspeaker
149 Cat Power - You Are Free
150 The Walkmen - Bows and Arrows
151 Spoon - Gimme Fiction
152 Beck - Midnite Vultures
153 Beach House - Devotion
154 Yeah Yeah Yeahs - It's Blitz
155 Wilco - Being There
156 Silver Jews - American Water
157 Fugazi - The Argument
158 The New Pornographers - Twin Cinema
159 Fever Ray - Fever Ray
160 Grandaddy - The Sophtware Slump
161 D'Angelo - VooDoo
162 Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti - Before Today
163 Beirut - The Flying Club Cup
164 The Streets - Original Pirate Material
165 Mogwai - Young Team
166 ...And You Will Know Us By the Trail of Dead - Source Tags & Codes
167 M.I.A. - Arular
168 Tom Waits - Mule Variations
169 Joanna Newsom - Have One on Me
170 The Decemberists - The Crane Wife
171 Boards of Canada - Geogaddi
172 Frank Ocean - Nostalgia, Ultra.
173 Ghostface Killah - Supreme Clientele
174 The Libertines - Up the Bracket
175 The Tallest Man on Earth - The Wild Hunt
176 Robyn - Body Talk
177 Janelle Monáe - The ArchAndroid
178 Kurt Vile - Smoke Ring For My Halo
179 The Rapture - Echoes
180 Andrew Bird - Andrew Bird & the Mysterious Production of Eggs
181 Kanye West - 808s and Heartbreak
182 Clipse - Hell Hath No Fury
183 Big Boi - Sir Lucious Left Foot: The Son of Chico Dusty
184 TV on the Radio - Desperate Youth, Blood Thirsty Babes
185 Stereolab - Emperor Tomato Ketchup
186 The Wrens - The Meadowlands
187 My Morning Jacket - It Still Moves
188 The New Pornographers - Mass Romantic
189 Godspeed You! Black Emperor - Lift Your Skinny Fists like Antennas to Heaven
190 Deerhunter - Cryptograms
191 Spoon - Girls Can Tell
192 M83 - Dead Cities, Red Seas & Lost Ghosts
193 Bright Eyes - Fevers and Mirrors
194 Girl Talk - Feed the Animals
195 Santogold - Santogold
196 Belle And Sebastian - The Life Pursuit
197 Cut Copy - In Ghost Colours
198 The Pains of Being Pure at Heart - The Pains of Being Pure at Heart
199 Drake - Take Care
200 Jens Lekman - Night Falls Over Kortedala
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Author: nosepail
Date: 08-22-12 17:00
This list is about what I expected. There are a few Pitchfork darlings who are way over-represented in the list:
Kanye (6)
9 Kanye West - My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy (2010)
39 Kanye West - The College Dropout (2004)
58 Kanye West - Late Registration
90 Kanye West - Graduation
127 Jay-Z / Kanye West - Watch the Throne
181 Kanye West - 808s and Heartbreak
Radiohead (5)
1 Radiohead - OK Computer
2 Radiohead - Kid A
6 Radiohead - In Rainbows
20 Radiohead - Amnesiac
40 Radiohead - Hail to the Thief
Animal Collective (4)
8 Animal Collective - Merriweather Post Pavilion (2009)
44 Animal Collective - Strawberry Jam (2007)
67 Animal Collective - Feels (2005)
75 Animal Collective - Sung Tongs (2004)
(Panda Pitch is on there also)
Sufjan Stevens (4), Spoon (4), Arcade Fire (3), Wilco (3), LCD Soundsystem (3), Modest Mouse (3), The National (3), Outkast (3), Elliott Smith (3), Beck (3), TV On The Radio (3), Deerhunter (3), M83 (3), Joanna Newsom (3),
There's about 35% of your list right there. The Radiohead thing I accept, though I disagree - they were the biggest newsmakers in the moribund area of rock music in the late 90's / early 00's, so they simply dominate the list. I personally might put OK Computer in my top 50, and dont care about the rest. Sonic Youth put out better records over the same period and do not appear. Kanye put out some excellent rap records in the decade, but only 3 of them truly deserve to be on the list. The Animal Collective thing confuses the hell out of me: How is it possible that so many people drank the Pitchfork Koolaid on these guys? I simply cannot listen to a whole record of theirs - it is too sonically painful. Though I keep trying every couple of years. I've never met anyone who actually listens to them. Maybe the editors stuffed the ballot box there. The worship of Arcade Fire is a mystery to me. I found Funeral had some good stuff, and Neon Bible complletely undistinguished. The Suburbs? A big flat "meh".
Some surprising omissions:
* Neko Case: I thought Fox Confessor was universally beloved. Guess not.
* Fiery Furnaces: A huge Pitchfork darling - does not appear.
* Bright Eyes: Only one appearance late in the list? Again, I though Cassadaga was widely loved.
* Mermaid Avenue? Same.
* Destroyer's Rubies - come on now, people. It's a great record! Didnt Pitchfork themselves give it a 10 ?
* No Sleater-Kinney? Perhaps the greatest band that didnt show up.
* 2007 and 2010 had over 40 records on the list? I dont remember - didnt those years kind of suck for music? List must skew young.
I only made a list of 40 and had an overlap of 14, though most of them appeared only very late in the list.
1 Destroyer's Rubies - Destroyer
2 Brighter Than Creation's Dark - Drive-By Truckers
3 Funeral Dress - Wussy
4 Mermaid Avenue - Billy Bragg
5 Kill the Moonlight - Spoon (96)
6 Post-Nothing - Japandroids (132)
7 The Glands - The Glands
8 Emotionalism - The Avett Brothers
9 69 Love Songs - The Magnetic Fields (52)
10 Pick a Bigger Weapon - The Coup
11 Supa Dupa Fly - Missy Elliot
12 We Shall All Be Healed - The Mountain Goats
13 Boys and Girls in America - The Hold Steady (147)
14 Wolfgang Amadeus Phoenix - Phoenix (36)
15 Welcome Black - The Negro Problem
16 Mass Romantic - The New Pornographers (188)
17 Aquemini - Outkast (84)
18 Apologies to the Queen Mary - Wolf Parade (91)
19 I Can Hear the Heart Beating as One - Yo La Tengo (57)
20 XO - Elliott Smith (78)
21 Mono - Grandpaboy
22 100 Broken Windows - Idlewild
23 Seven Swans - Sufjan Stevens (139)
24 The Meadowlands - The Wrens (186)
25 Fox Confessor Brings the Flood - Neko Case
26 Source Tags & Codes - ...And You Will Know Us By the Trail of Dead (166)
27 Hologram of Baal - The Church
28 Bring on the Snakes - Crooked Fingers
29 Pig Lib - Stephen Malkmus and the Jicks
30 Half Smiles of the Decomposed - Guided By Voices
31 Indoor Living - Superchunk
32 Decoration Day - Drive-By Truckers
33 Fishscale - Ghostface Killah
34 Late Season Kids - The Beatings
35 The Unseen - Quasimoto
36 I See the Sign - Sam Amidon
37 Cassadaga - Bright Eyes
38 VooDoo - D'Angelo (161)
39 Blueberry Boat - The Fiery Furnaces
40 Purple Haze - Camron
Also, I made my list in about 15 minutes while I was drunk and so omitted the class of 1996 (DJ Shadow be there.) Overall, I like Paganizers list much better than my own.
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Author: mats84
Date: 08-22-12 17:09
Have to admit I'm pleasantly surprised with The Strokes 2nd album that high up there. That album caught a bad rap on release from some people - it holds up very well.
Are the Exploding Hearts not on here?
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Author: erikalbany
Date: 08-22-12 17:33
As I scan this list, my taste-preferences don't first pop us until 29, 32, and 52 (DJ Shadow, Beach House, and Magnetic Fields). After that I gave up. Suffice to say, I'm out of step with Pitchfork Nation.
I can't even find the Radio Dept. on that entire list, and they're in my top 10.
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Author: breno
Date: 08-22-12 18:09
My main irritation with the whole thing is that I somehow forgot to include Libraries by the Love Language on my list and it should've been in the top 15.
Even more irritated, I had it on the first version of my list, which the site ate without warning, so I had to start over again and forgot it.
Because I just know if I'd remembered to include it, it would've made the final Pitchfork list! Of course it would've.
Otherwise, I think I had 22 of the top 200 on my list. Which means I am in step with the Pitchfork nation about every ten paces.
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Author: STEVE
Date: 08-22-12 20:46
hey brad, your number six album neko case-middle cydon has a photo of a 1971 Ford Torino XL500 on the cover.
That is exactly the make, model , year and color -right down to the black vinyl top-of the car i bought from Scott Ian (not his real last name) Grandfather in Palm Springs, Fla back in 1994. The elder Ian (Moe), i think he was 90 yrs old at the time, proudly displayed the Anthrax Gold record on his living room wall that Scott gave him. I drove that car for eight years before its time had come to put it down.
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Author: Aitch
Date: 08-22-12 22:24
Three crossovers. Although I would have had that Neutral Milk Hotel one if I was thinking straight.
11 LCD Soundsystem - Sound of Silver
92 LCD Soundsystem - LCD Soundsystem
132 Japandroids - Post-Nothing
Am I too cool or not cool enough?
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Author: totaji
Date: 08-23-12 10:48
The Voter demographics -
http://www.quantcast.com/p-d5PgAY9MthZsM#!demo&anchor=panel-GENDER
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Author: Jermoe
Date: 08-23-12 11:44
I did my list quickly, with the goal of not repeating anyone. The first 4 selections are the 4 albums from the time period I've listened to the most...
Re. Neko Case, Fox Confessor... probably has the better tunes overall, but Middle Cyclone feels more like a cohesive album to me.
My selection of Semisonic's Feeling Strangely Fine was kind of arbitrary–could've been any of their 3 albums or Dan Wilson's solo debut Free Life, but Feeling Strangely Fine has "Singing in My Sleep" on it, so I went with that one. Now, there is the question of how Pitchforkian an act like Semisonic (or Missy Higgins) might be. My response: Modest Mouse...(or Feist)?
The number of people who voted for Animal Collective's stuff probably outstrips the number of people who've actually listened to a single one of their albums in its entirety. Interpol's Turn on the Bright Lights coming in at #12 is another head scratcher.
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Author: Delvin
Date: 08-23-12 12:39
"Pitchforkian" ... I like that. So are the artists/albums we generally talk about "Trouserian"?
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Author: erikalbany
Date: 08-23-12 13:45
"So are the artists/albums we generally talk about 'Trouserian'?"
That works for me, especially because, according to totaji's demographics link, the Pitchforkians apparently have women among their ranks (fewer as they may be).
"Trouserian" sounds about right.
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Author: totaji
Date: 08-23-12 14:49
I was surprised how many wealthy people voted. It must have been Mitt and Paul Ryan casting their votes for Rage Against The Machine, The Crass and Public Enemy albums.
And 1% were over 65! That had to have come from this messageboard ;)
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Author: M. Johnson
Date: 08-23-12 14:59
My brain processed the Ethnicity portion of the Voter Demographics literally as follows:
Ethnicity
Caucasian
African American
Asian
Hipster
Other
I needed a second-glance/extra few seconds to resolve the correct word.
Don't know if that makes me 'dyslexic' or only jaded.
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Author: breno
Date: 08-23-12 20:10
STEVE, I don't have very many good near-celebrity stories like that, though I did almost run over Johnny Bench as he was crossing the street from Busch Stadium to his hotel back in the 80s.
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Author: Jermoe
Date: 08-23-12 20:37
While I've never been a Cincinnati Reds fan, the precipitous decline of Johnny Bench's game in the latter years saddens me to this day. We're talking about a guy who revolutionized the game like a Babe Ruth, Willie Mays, Frank Robinson, Ozzie Smith or Bruce Sutter...and things went so far off the track over the last 5 years or so.
Now that I think about it, the guys I compared Bench to didn't exactly go out in a blaze of glory either, did they?
One of the classic arguments my brother and I have is about Chipper Jones. My brother thinks he's an overrated redneck with mush for brains. I think he's an underrated redneck with mush for brains. You can see how we don't make much headway on this topic. But seriously, outside of Mets fans, the greatness of Chipper Jones is overlooked far too frequently:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/j/jonesch06.shtml
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Author: zoo
Date: 08-24-12 08:24
My high school baseball team was in the Class 4A (at the time, the highest level in Florida) state championship in 1990. (We ended up losing to Jason Varitek's Lake Brantley team, but that's besides the point). Our first game wasn't until Sat night. A few of us headed over the to fields to watch one of the earlier games, and saw the local newspaper writer that covered our team sitting there, so we went and sat next to him. Two Class A teams were playing, one of them Jacksonville Bolles, who we'd never heard of. This newspaper guy keeps talking about this Chipper Jones kid who is supposed to be the bee's knees. Yeah, whatever, I thought. Anyway, next inning, up comes Chipper and promptly hits a rocket off the wall to the deepest part of center field. I was stunned. Mind you, we're high school kids hitting in a major league sized field...in comparison, the fence at my school was 360, and few hit it out to dead center. But here's Chipper hitting 400 ft lasers. I didn't forget Chipper's name, and it wasn't too long after that game I was watching him in the major leagues.
The greatest switch hitter since Eddie Murray?
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Author: STEVE
Date: 08-24-12 08:36
and now were back to baseball, way to hustle brad.
zoo, i was born in miami (carol city) i didnt play baseball past middle school. but i did play little league with one Danny Tartabull. He was hitting "lasers' just as you described, at eight! And our very own TP fan club prez, Kathleen reminds me that she used to play 'Quarters' (that 80's drinking game) with Dante Bichette.
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Author: zoo
Date: 08-24-12 09:28
My high school coach was Tartabull's manager at Carol City High in (forget the year) when they won the state title. Used to talk about what a man among boys Danny was.
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Author: HollowbodyKay
Date: 08-24-12 10:36
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STEVE, I don't have very many good near-celebrity stories like that, though I did almost run over Johnny Bench as he was crossing the street from Busch Stadium to his hotel back in the 80s.
As children in the 1970s, my brother and I met Mr. Bench at a publicity meet-n-greet at a Sears or J.C. Penny's in a shopping mall somewhere in southern Ohio. I believe we even got his autograph (which is now in a landfill somewhere in southern Ohio).
Oddly, while memory paints him as looking like Gil Gerard from "Buck Rogers In The 25th Century," he actually looks more like a bloated Nicholas Cage.
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"It was Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin except he looked like Joe Perry of Aerosmith!"
- Bongwater ("Rock and Roll Part 2" / Double Bummer")
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Author: Jermoe
Date: 08-24-12 21:19
Danny Tartabull is one of the most disappointing players in the history of MLB.
As a youth, I failed to realize how beneficial it would be spending summers shuttling between Atlanta and Cape Cod. Between the Braves and the Red Sox, I managed to see 10-15 major league games live–9-13 of which were meaningless–every summer, and I went to an insane number of Cape League games, too. Hell, I even went to an open practice in Pittsburgh after the 1981 strike and got batting tips from Rick Rhoden, who knew how to hit. Anyways, when you grow up watching meaningless games, you develop an appreciation for the game unencumbered by expectation or disappointment. By 1983, I'd go to Cardinals-Braves or Orioles-Red Sox games more to watch and enjoy Willie McGee, Vince Coleman, Ozzie Smith, Ken Singleton, Dennis Martinez and Eddie Murray than anything else.
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Author: erikalbany
Date: 08-24-12 21:43
This rumbling waivers deal between the Red Sox and the Dodgers, with A-Gone/Crawford/Beckett/Punto on the block, has me so perturbed and freaked out that I can't even get a wedge into this great TP baseball conversation.
(Believe me, I do want to see Becket go--but not Gonzalez).
I know Valentine invented the sandwich wrap and all, but I would be happy to send him on his way (with hopes that we may one day have Showalter).
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Author: Jermoe
Date: 08-24-12 23:01
Valentine's gone. It didn't take long for his schtick to wear thin with the Rangers and the Mets, and for some damn reason he was the man to come in and fix the Red Sox. Valentine makes Billy Martin's ghost seem reserved and circumspect. Jerks like Mattingly, Baker and Scioscia went on to become good managers...this guy's just gone on to become an even bigger jerk.
The trade makes sense as far as unloading salary. Beckett just needs to be somewhere else. Crawford has a chip on his shoulder, and Boston fans love nothing more than the opportunity to take someone down several pegs. It seems like trading Gonzalez is a short-term fix, but he'd probably averaged .295/35 HR/110 RBI over 5 or 6 seasons in a pitcher's league with San Diego, and while he's been a good contact hitter in Boston, his power numbers haven't been anything to write home about...1B who hit for average aren't that hot a commodity.
I have a hard time figuring out where Punto fits in the Dodgers' master plan. Actually, it's not clear where any of these guys fit in with the Dodgers short- or long-term. They're within striking distance of the Giants and in the neighborhood of Pirates, Braves and Cardinals in the wild card (which is even more of a crapshoot than it used to be), so one has to assume they believe the acquisition of these 3 or 4 players will ensure they win the NL West for the Dodgers. While the lowly Diamondbacks nip at their heels.
Beckett's done. Crawford's done in Boston (we both know it). Gonzalez isn't going to turn things around with the rest of this crew. Punto's an afterthought. Erik, you sold me on these trades (assuming everything goes through)!
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Author: Jermoe
Date: 08-26-12 21:14
Gotta love the Spaceman...
I ran into a fellow Sox fan at church this morning, and he yelled, "We just became a .500 team for the next 3 years!" I didn't have the heart to remind him this year's team, as constituted pre-trade, was 5 games under .500...
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